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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    You're ongoing criticism of all things Tesla regardless of it's basis in reality has been anything but constructive.

    The irony of the same guy saying auto-pilot makes us more susceptible to enemy invasion telling me to lighten up is not lost on me.
    *Your

    Maybe it's just the tone of your posts, the way you go to the extreme... or that you seem to relate things I'm saying about something else back as an attack on Tesla, or maybe it's just that celebrity worship is a pet peeve of mine, but I'm certainly not here to join you in worship of all things Tesla.

    If they're so awesome then one keyboard commando isn't going to take them down off their pedestal, is it?

    I can respect your opinion just as soon as you allow me mine... oh, and I'm not alone:
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/karlkau.../#55b3b3f7ffa4
    https://www.thestreet.com/story/1386...lutz-says.html
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/se...led-2018-05-23

    mob censorship:
    https://jalopnik.com/wall-street-jou...tes-1827785899
    Last edited by 68Charger; 09-05-2018 at 17:19.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    *Your

    Maybe it's just the tone of your posts, the way you go to the extreme... or that you seem to relate things I'm saying about something else back as an attack on Tesla, or maybe it's just that celebrity worship is a pet peeve of mine, but I'm certainly not here to join you in worship of all things Tesla.

    If they're so awesome then one keyboard commando isn't going to take them down off their pedestal, is it?

    I can respect your opinion just as soon as you allow me mine... oh, and I'm not alone:
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/karlkau.../#55b3b3f7ffa4
    https://www.thestreet.com/story/1386...lutz-says.html
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/se...led-2018-05-23

    mob censorship:
    https://jalopnik.com/wall-street-jou...tes-1827785899
    The irony continues...

    Pointing out grammatical errors as if your posts are that of an English professor.

    You then go on to describe me as having "celebrity worship" and taking the "extreme stance" for pointing out misinformation....

    Yeah, I think we're done here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    Yeah, I think we're done here.
    That's a relief.

    The systems where it beeped to let them know that someone was intruding on their lane, yeah, my car has that. Does the same thing if I'm closing on someone fast and am not applying the brakes. I just don't get that excited by that video.

    The videos where autopilot is engaged and the Tesla is skipping off a jersey barrier when the lane is diverted, skipping off a steel barrier along the road, side-swiping vehicles pulled over to the side of a lane...now those are funny. Static object identification and avoidance seems to me to be a pretty basic requirement before making the technology available to the public...unless you like to pay a lot of money and risk your life (and others) as a beta tester.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    That's a relief.

    The systems where it beeped to let them know that someone was intruding on their lane, yeah, my car has that. Does the same thing if I'm closing on someone fast and am not applying the brakes. I just don't get that excited by that video.

    The videos where autopilot is engaged and the Tesla is skipping off a jersey barrier when the lane is diverted, skipping off a steel barrier along the road, side-swiping vehicles pulled over to the side of a lane...now those are funny. Static object identification and avoidance seems to me to be a pretty basic requirement before making the technology available to the public...unless you like to pay a lot of money and risk your life (and others) as a beta tester.
    Sorry if my response above re-sparks something... I didn't see your response until after I posted it...

    When a company stops looking at the errors the system makes, they will cease to make any improvements.
    With any system, The more rules you put in, the longer the system will take to make a decision (within the bounds of the same hardware).

    I can write some code real fast that will NEVER lead to a collision- but alas, you'll never get anywhere in that vehicle.

    So there will be a constant battle between code to recognize threats, the time to react to them, and the public perception that it's "too sensitive" and slowing their commute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    The irony continues...

    Pointing out grammatical errors as if your posts are that of an English professor.

    You then go on to describe me as having "celebrity worship" and taking the "extreme stance" for pointing out misinformation....

    Yeah, I think we're done here.
    You can only decide when <you're> done. That being said, I mean no disrespect but it seems painfully apparent to me that you do.
    I don't know what you hope to accomplish with your tirades of Tesla worship, but I was never under any delusion I would convince you I'm correct... I entered into this thread from the very beginning with the belief that someone would personally attack me for pointing out that their belief system at least partially based on a person and/or corporation.
    Part of what I was doing was going farther to the extreme just because you were. (yep, I'm a troll.. Justin- Props for calling me out)

    If you're to learn anything from your elders, it's that your tactics did nothing to convince me, but further steeled my resolve.
    I'm going to leave a message for my broker to ensure that no Tesla assets are in my portfolio by the end of market tomorrow.
    This is in no way a mandate that you have to learn from me- find your own way.... I'm just telling you that you'll never convince someone of my clearly advanced age using the tactics you did in this thread.

    I at least hoped to reveal your Tesla cognitive dissonance for what it is to others... and at best I hoped you would recognize that you've got an unhealthy fixation with the subject... but alas, I believe you are convinced beyond my ability to convince you otherwise. Oh well, that's your problem.

    And I'm not going to lose a second of sleep over accusations of improper English from someone who commits the most common of errors... really, how hard is it? spend an hour studying English on this particular subject (you vs your vs you're) and you can master it... sincerely, I believe your'e smart enough- but you likely just haven't paid enough attention. But I am also never offended by someone pointing out grammatical errors in my posts, perhaps my overuse of ellipsis? After all, <dammit, Jim> I'm an Engineer, not an English professor. (paraphrasing) Forums tend to have a little informal English anyway... but there are memes based on your vs you're.

    But anyway, I've enjoyed sparring in print on the subject- even if you did not.

    P.S. (My sentence about dumping TSLA should in no way be taken as financial advice... I am not a financial adviser, even if I build networks for them)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    *Your

    Maybe it's just the tone of your posts, the way you go to the extreme... or that you seem to relate things I'm saying about something else back as an attack on Tesla, or maybe it's just that celebrity worship is a pet peeve of mine, but I'm certainly not here to join you in worship of all things Tesla.

    If they're so awesome then one keyboard commando isn't going to take them down off their pedestal, is it?

    I can respect your opinion just as soon as you allow me mine... oh, and I'm not alone:
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/karlkau.../#55b3b3f7ffa4
    https://www.thestreet.com/story/1386...lutz-says.html
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/se...led-2018-05-23

    mob censorship:
    https://jalopnik.com/wall-street-jou...tes-1827785899
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