Diesel pickups are for chumps

[Jer]

Urban myth that an off center weight can be used to defeat the safeties? Enough to get the NHTSA involved to ban the autopilot buddy? (That has now relaunched as a "cell phone holder")

I understand that you are passionate about defending Tesla from haters, but you have to admit that some of this is possible.

I didn't say it wasn't at some point but we're past that point. I'm also aware that the NHTSA got involved but it doesn't change the fact that the device doesn't work the same that jamming an orange in the corner of your steering wheel doesn't work.

We're getting off on a tangent here though.

Did this guy who was allegedly asleep at the wheel for 7+ minutes have one of these Autopilot Buddy devices? Still not sure why we even got derailed on the subject because I don't see as it applies to this story that smells of bovine excrement.

Also, I'm not necessarily a passionate Tesla apologist I just tend to oppose blatant false information of any subject being presented as fact. It just happens there is a lot of that going on 'round these parts against Tesla specifically. Prime example is a thread where we're discussing the merits of EV power and larger pick-up trucks and someone just drops in this "news" story and presents it as fact. It doesn't help these sorts of conversations.

[ben4372]

Yet, these things exist...

https://www.autopilotbuddy.com

You can defeat the "pressure" sense with an orange.


I'm not saying that the DUI was purely on autopilot, but it is fairly simple to get around the need to have your hand on the wheel.

I like the part that says " for track use only" ha ha ha.

[68Charger]

I'd be up for a new reality show where the challenge is to be given someone's Tesla for a week and the win is to deliver it with a few bags of sand in ther drivers seat (unmanned) to the owner's house (out front, not IN it). With this kind of tech, you can do mechanical, electrionic, and software hacks... sounds like it would be fun to watch.

I'm sure somebody will say it's impossible, but there are devices out there for "testing" GPS... they can send whatever you want to a GPS receiver (albeit illegally)...

[OtterbatHellcat]

You once owned a Pacer, admit it.

It was a Pinto Wagon, with flames on it, dammit.

*not really, I never owned a Pinto Wagon, but it was fun for reading purposes*

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

What can the Bollinger do better than, or out perform, the F250

Personally, I like the modularity of it. It is both pickup and SUV.
The size is probably just right, having driven a 1-ton CTD for > 10 years. I don?t really want to go back to that right now.
The spartan interior is both turn on and turn off.

But yeah, that price tag probably kills the idea. Will it be on the Tesla service network? Or charging?
No idea. I want one, and I?m maybe a buyer in the low 50s....but not at 80K for sure.

That said, academic. I?d gone through about 6 cars in 5 years and my wife has us on a bit of a trading moratorium!

[encorehunter]

I really like the idea of the EV pickup. The biggest problem i see in my area is the electric grid. How do they handle power surhes and brown outs during charging? Once or twice a month, we wake up to clocks flashing, more so in winter. We only have one charge station here in Trinidad that I know of, so the remote areas do have some catch up to do with charging stations.
My CTD is getting around 16mpg in town, around 19 mpg on the highway. Much better than the older one. I can see using the EV around town, but an AWD or 4wd would be required.
My trucks get covered in mud a lot just by leaving the house and going home. I've always been told dirt and dust is death to electric motors. Maybe in 15 years when I'm ready for another new truck, there will be more support and more questions answered.

[Justin]

I'd be up for a new reality show where the challenge is to be given someone's Tesla for a week and the win is to deliver it with a few bags of sand in ther drivers seat (unmanned) to the owner's house (out front, not IN it). With this kind of tech, you can do mechanical, electrionic, and software hacks... sounds like it would be fun to watch.

I'm sure somebody will say it's impossible, but there are devices out there for "testing" GPS... they can send whatever you want to a GPS receiver (albeit illegally)...

Already been done. Earlier this year a group was able to get an unoccupied Tesla Model 3 to set a hypermiling record on a track in Germany.

https://insideevs.com/driverless-tes...rmiling-recod/

[Justin]

Urban myth that an off center weight can be used to defeat the safeties? Enough to get the NHTSA involved to ban the autopilot buddy? (That has now relaunched as a "cell phone holder")

I understand that you are passionate about defending Tesla from haters, but you have to admit that some of this is possible.

Not sure that I get the objection to Tesla on the basis that some people are deliberately misusing their vehicles. Seems a bit like blaming a gun company when one of their firearms are used to commit a crime.

[00tec]

Not sure that I get the objection to Tesla on the basis that some people are deliberately misusing their vehicles. Seems a bit like blaming a gun company when one of their firearms are used to commit a crime.

I'm not knocking Tesla, nor blaming them for anything. I have no issue with them whatsoever. I was simply pointing out that there are workarounds for the safeties on the autopilot and that sleepy DUI guy is plausible.

[Irving]

I want to know what activity got him the attention in the first place.