Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
The Tesla 3 cracking the top 10 in sales has a hell of a lot more to do with the bottom falling out of the sedan market. Ford plans to only make 1 of them going forward. The market is primarily CUV/SUV/Truck in this country.
So, basically Tesla is the one company that is making a sedan that anyone actually wants.

As to scale, people get excited about Tesla trying to hit 5,000 vehicles in a week. GM makes over 8,000 per day. Car manufacturers announce new products and then they show up at dealers to purchase in volume. No fanfare whatsoever. Yet, people get excited when Tesla loses a little less money in a quarter than expected. I'm not drinking the Kool-aid.
Its funny watching the people who dislike Tesla continually shift goal posts. In ten years they've gone from manufacturing a boutique sportscar for rich guys to bringing to market the first viable electric vehicle that's so desireable they're having issues meeting the demand. That's an incredible amount of progress by any metric, yet those who are critical continually harp on and on about how their production numbers should be higher.

Car companies are really good at making cars. To make electric cars isn't outside their ability.
And yet not a single one of them managed to make a viable electric car until Tesla started eating out of their rice bowl, and even now, the only electric cars that are on par with the Teslas are luxury vehicles for the rich; the Jaguar iPACE and Porsche Taycan. Oh, and they've both had their delivery dates pushed back. Furthermore, they're going to find themselves resource constrained as demand for lithium and cobalt increases. Sure, the legacy car makers have gobs of money, but I sure can't seem to find their gigafactories or super charging stations on Google Maps. Perhaps you could post a link?

Tesla isn't building base 3's. They're selling $70K+ 3's. The production volume of Tesla is leading to the expiration of some of the 'free' tax dollars subsidizing this horseshit.
No one in the history of buying a car, ever, has ever bought the base model. As a general rule, I drive late-model shitboxes and spend as little on vehicles as I can, and even none of those have been a base model. I would expect that a car aimed squarely at the middle-middle to upper-middle class market would apply.

WHEN Tesla shits the bed, the vehicles will no longer have OTA updates, etc.[/QUOTE]

People have been claiming Tesla is dying from day one and it simply hasn't happened. it's no different than the mass media polls claiming that Donald Trump only had a 1% chance of winning the election, or all the times that the death of Amazon was claimed to be days away.