Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
That's definately #1... you could buy a 20 Year old Diesel and still have money left to buy thousands of gallons of fuel AND whatever trailer you want to tow with it for similar money.

#2 I've seen commercials where they talk about towing a travel trailer. With a 20-year old 3/4 ton Diesel, you also can- including nearly any gooseneck or fifth wheel, which is going to be a no-go with the Rivian's 55" bed

#3 speaking of the 55" bed, can you get 2 round hay bales, or 4 square bales on it? (I don't even think it could take the weight of 2400-3000#)

#4 How about contracting? You're going to be bending sheetrock if it's hanging over the tailgate... and forget about 12' lumber or ranch gates without a trailer...

#5 I could drive off with a Diesel truck now (already have 2). When is the 180kW version going to be available? Have They even published a price on it yet? Because you're going to need lots more "range" if you start using it like a 3/4 ton.

Stick with comparing it to F150s... most of those are not used like real trucks most of the time anyway (some never). Many could not do some things on this list either.

ETA: I'm comparing to my 20 year old 3/4 ton flat-bed Diesel, since I've never seen wulf's F250. I tried to avoid smart-ass answers like "buy a set of batteries without a loan"... but this is by no means an exhaustive list.
Just to make sure, you're comparing to one of those new Rivian trucks, right? I wouldn't buy a new $100k truck or car either but that's just me. The real interesting time is when we start to see a used market for these vehicles so that normal folk can afford them.

You're also comparing diesels now which is removed from the F250 conversation we were having. I will agree that an EV pick-up doesn't fit every need but this requires you to admit the same thing for a 1-ton diesel. Cherry picking a situation where it may outperform (we don't even know what is coming but shit I'm reading says this may not be the case) and act like everything else doesn't exist. I will never try to convince the world that an EV is perfect for everyone and every need but there are entirely too many people out there willing to state that not a single one can meat a single individual need of anyone which is disingenuous.