SBR registered receiver in non-SBR format.

[Circuits]

It is legally only an SBR when in a complete SBR configuration. You are free to transport and use and even sell it as a Title 1 non-SBR rifle when it's in a non SBR configuration.

Someone will come along with the citation eventually but ATF has responded in writing to this effect.

[kidicarus13]

...adding a non-NFA upper does not make it a non-NFA item.

It is legally only an SBR when in a complete SBR configuration. You are free to transport and use and even sell it as a Title 1 non-SBR rifle when it's in a non SBR configuration.

I feel like these are saying the opposite thing.

[Hoser]

I feel like these are saying the opposite thing.

Exactly. I have never been able to find it in writing anywhere so I error on the side of caution.

With my luck I would have a 20 inch barrel on it and it would get stolen in NM or WY. Now I have to explain why an NFA receiver was out of state without a 5320.

One of the joys of the NFA game. Lots of grey areas open to interpatation and not enough black and white.

[Great-Kazoo]

Exactly. I have never been able to find it in writing anywhere so I error on the side of caution.

With my luck I would have a 20 inch barrel on it and it would get stolen in NM or WY. Now I have to explain why an NFA receiver was out of state without a 5320.

One of the joys of the NFA game. Lots of grey areas open to interpatation and not enough black and white.

Wait till one does an out of state change of address, where the physical addy is different from the mailing addy.

[Not_A_Llama]

It is legally only an SBR when in a complete SBR configuration. You are free to transport and use and even sell it as a Title 1 non-SBR rifle when it's in a non SBR configuration.

Someone will come along with the citation eventually but ATF has responded in writing to this effect.

I have also seen this posted with ATF documentation, and have seen (someone else’s) NFA-specific counsel advise the same.

[SAnd]

This is why there is a NFA registry-
§5841. Registration of firearms
(a) Central registry
The Secretary shall maintain a central registry of all firearms in the United States which are not in the possession or under the control of the United States. This registry shall be known as the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/granule/US...nt-detail.html
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE...tI-sec5841.htm

This defines what a NFA firearm is-
§5845. Definitions
For the purpose of this chapter—
(a) Firearm
The term “firearm” means (1) a shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length; (2) a weapon made from a shotgun if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length; (3) a rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length; (4) a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length;
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE...tI-sec5845.htm

This has generally been interpreted to mean by definition it is only a NFA rifle if it has a barrel less than 16 inches or overall length less than 26 inches. It doesn't meet the definition of a NFA rifle if the barrel is longer than 16 inches. By definition you register a rifle, not a receiver.

My previous post quotes from a FAQ from two years ago that seems to back this up. I'm not Authorized so I can't tell if they have changed their minds on the way it is done now.

[SouthPaw]

Why even risk it? Better safe than sorry.

[mattiooo]

Why even risk it? Better safe than sorry.

I've found now that it was definitely in writing on their website at one point. There are numerous sites pointing to it or showing it. It's only a risk if they've changed their stance. That's up to me to find out now.
Did they take it down because the rules have changed? Because of a directive not to openly say it? Or was it a website management issue?

[Circuits]

I can't believe no one posted the link, which I couldn't, since I was on a phone at the time of my original reply...

See: ATF reply to Wade Bailey letter: final paragraph, second page

https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/files...tate-lines.pdf

[mattiooo]

I can't believe no one posted the link, which I couldn't, since I was on a phone at the time of my original reply...

See: ATF reply to Wade Bailey letter: final paragraph, second page

https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/files...tate-lines.pdf

Finally. Thank you.