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Agree to disagree. You should be leaving exactly enough space as is required to stop safely. If people get lit about that, they have issues.Originally Posted by Skip
Agree with the stopping distance.
She said she was leaving enough space so she didn't have to shift. Totally different. Assuming the rager isn't a rider, all he sees is smaller vehicle holding him back in the fast lane, with a lot of space, while engine braking in stop/go traffic.
Again, doesn't justify the assault and the rager is in clearly in the wrong. Just not a provocation I would start on a bike. There's nothing wrong with getting over if you want to ride that way.
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From what? Getting there 10 seconds earlier than he would've? It was already mentioned they were in grid lock traffic or stop & go at the least. She wasn't holding him back from anything. She was riding in a way where she was maximizing energy efficiency. Have you rode a motorcycle in grid lock traffic on the highway? I do...4 days a week. It sucks. Fortunately I don't have to shift on my bike. When I did have an R6, I would try to leave enough room to minimize having to constantly shift & work the clutch. If people get heated about that, that is their problem. If they get stupid like the guy in this situation did, they are likely to end up with the same result.
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Agreed. This wasn't a case where she was in the passing lane with nobody ahead of her going too slow (even then not justification for violence). I hate to say it, but based on the way he reacted to an imagined inconvenience (and the way his family reacted afterward) the world is actually a tiny brighter place with this guy in the ground.
Yeah, I bet he thought she was a he and was probably pretty surprised when he realized he died at the hands of a girl (gotta wonder how much of his violence the wife in the car had been on the receiving end of over the years). Again, its a brighter place now.
One thing she said that I find interesting (because I've read it so many times in these accounts of armed self defense) was "All of the sudden I remembered I had a gun."
On the one hand that's a good thing (our gun shouldn't be the first thing we think of in a conflict) but on the other hand I wonder how many CCWers have died and their last thought was "wait a minute, I've got a gun!".
Last edited by Zundfolge; 08-21-2018 at 11:33.
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The rager acted on what he perceived. He was probably tired of slamming on his brakes every time she got off the throttle while she left what he might have thought is too much room she left. I'm saying the same thing over again, but why ride that way in the left lane? Get over if you don't want to shift and maintain the flow of traffic.
She is actually lucky he didn't use his vehicle as a weapon. Making her a skidmark would have been a traffic infraction, "I couldn't stop in time."
There's a reason I don't act like "it's their problem" as you said. Laws of physics say they can make it my problem. And your CCW isn't going to help you in or after a TC on a bike.
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