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    At one time John McCain served his country well in the Armed Services. He continued to serve honorably as a POW, enduring torture while maintaining his oath to our nation. For that, I am greatly appreciative.

    I do not rejoice in many people deaths, only those truly evil. I certainly feel sympathy for anyone who has to experience to horrors of cancer, brain cancer being one of the worst among them. Because of this, I'm glad that John McCain is no longer suffering with this illness and can find peace.

    While I think, for the most part, that Sen. McCain believed he was doing what was right for this nation, his last decade of service in the Senate were destructive to our nation. He allowed his anti-Trump bias to color his comments and votes and was essentially in lock step with the Dems these last few years. John McCain was elected as a Conservative, aka Republican, Senator, yet in his last decade of service he might as well have claimed the Democratic label. For whatever reasons he felt this was necessary, he caused harm to this nation - and for that I am happy that he is no longer a member of the U.S. senate.

    My hope is that Gov. Ducey selects a true conservative to replace Sen. McCain - someone who can help to re-instill true conservative values into our government and who has a good chance to be elected back into the position when the position comes up for a vote.

    John McCain, may you rest in peace.
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    Well put, Thomas. I think some of the damage he caused goes beyond the last decade, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    At one time John McCain served his country well in the Armed Services. He continued to serve honorably as a POW, enduring torture while maintaining his oath to our nation. For that, I am greatly appreciative.

    I do not rejoice in many people deaths, only those truly evil. I certainly feel sympathy for anyone who has to experience to horrors of cancer, brain cancer being one of the worst among them. Because of this, I'm glad that John McCain is no longer suffering with this illness and can find peace.

    While I think, for the most part, that Sen. McCain believed he was doing what was right for this nation, his last decade of service in the Senate were destructive to our nation. He allowed his anti-Trump bias to color his comments and votes and was essentially in lock step with the Dems these last few years. John McCain was elected as a Conservative, aka Republican, Senator, yet in his last decade of service he might as well have claimed the Democratic label. For whatever reasons he felt this was necessary, he caused harm to this nation - and for that I am happy that he is no longer a member of the U.S. senate.

    My hope is that Gov. Ducey selects a true conservative to replace Sen. McCain - someone who can help to re-instill true conservative values into our government and who has a good chance to be elected back into the position when the position comes up for a vote.

    John McCain, may you rest in peace.
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    Thomas theGinsue, you covered it perfectly. Thank you,

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    Quote Originally Posted by waffles View Post
    He always struck me as a person who honestly tried to do what he believed was right for his country, not just what he thought would own the libs or trigger the snowflakes or whatever. He was one of the last I could say that about, even if I didn't always agree with all his positions.
    I'll agree with this.

    One of the last few politicians who put what he genuinely thought was better for the country over what the official party line called for. The last decent person on the campaign trail, too.

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    I don’t know, I sort of feel like Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi might actually believe or convince themselves that what they’re doing is right for our country.

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    If they believe what they are doing is right, and if those they represent agree with them, then that is democracy, the foundation of our country's ideology.

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    As for McCain's heroism in Viet Nam, at one point Benedict Arnold was a hero at the capture of Fort Ticonderoga, but we judge him from his later actions, so...

    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    My hope is that Gov. Ducey selects a true conservative to replace Sen. McCain - someone who can help to re-instill true conservative values into our government and who has a good chance to be elected back into the position when the position comes up for a vote.
    Its my understanding that McCain hand picked his own wife to be his successor. Lets hope Gov. Ducey ignores that request.

    At any rate, your assessment of his career may be correct, though I think you give him too much credit (but to be fair, neither of us knew the man and what was really going on in his head).

    The McCain saga is finally over, and for that we can all be thankful.
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    Seems to me that I recall McCain was part of a group that approached Pelosi and the 'Crats about the impending Lender Industry Doom.....and he was ignored at the time.

    As far as I understand it, at least he tried.


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    Thanks for his military service, for his career after he should have been jailed for his role in the "Keating 5" debacle.

    how politicians get away with crimes just amazes me, and even more amazing are the voters who continue to keep them in office even when the dirt is exposed.

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