And CDOT screws the state again...

[Irving]

I don’t know, maybe Because it is the posted legal speed limit ?

That's not relevant to any situation I've observed.

In times when traffic is flowing as it should and cars are able to travel at the posted limit (or over), why be in the pay lane at all?

Often times I see traffic backed up, and vehicles in the pay lane are pacing cars in the left lane, going below the speed limit. They aren't waiting to merge with their signal on. I understand being safe, but if you're just pacing for safety, why not move over and do it for free?

[SideShow Bob]

OK, now I see what you mean. Possibly, as mentioned in another post, these are the line jumpers looking for a gap to jump back in the non-toll lane.before the cameras.

[Irving]

Sounds plausible, but as someone who is usually driving all the way through, my building rage, mile after congested, anecdotal mile, tells me otherwise.

[XJ]

BPtactical

[BPTactical]

I don’t know, maybe Because it is the posted legal speed limit ?

Fer Chrissake Bobbo, don't throw silly things like laws, regulations and common sense into the mix.

[Irving]

Swing and a miss!

[brutal]

That's not relevant to any situation I've observed.

In times when traffic is flowing as it should and cars are able to travel at the posted limit (or over), why be in the pay lane at all?

Often times I see traffic backed up, and vehicles in the pay lane are pacing cars in the left lane, going below the speed limit. They aren't waiting to merge with their signal on. I understand being safe, but if you're just pacing for safety, why not move over and do it for free?

What would traffic be like if all those cars in the extra lane were in yours?

Think about it...

[brutal]

I really wish the toll lanes if they are insistent on doing that would at least have a barrier. Because people love darting in and out to avoid the cameras. Or getting impatient and crossing the double white nearly causing accidents....

I'd be less opposed if the prices were a little more reasonable, $4-5 a day would suck but be somewhat digestible but the cost for the i25 into denver is ridiculous. (And E-470 always confused me, because often looping around the entire denver metro is a fortune and only saves time if stuff is located perfectly otherwise the crawl is still your only bet.


Once this kicks off I wonder if Ft collins from longmont will be faster at all going up 257 like I already do for Greeley.

Barrier = no breakdown lane or extra width needed for such.

[Irving]

I must not be painting a good picture here. It isn't ever "all those cars." That would make sense because it would mean that there was so much traffic that all lanes are full with no where to go. No reason to be frustrated with the guy in front of you in that situation because he can't go anywhere. I'm talking about being able to see beyond the person that is pacing traffic. Sometimes I'm not even in the pay lane. I'm the guy in the left lane, and someone is driving the same speed as me in the pay lane. What are these people paying to use the open lane for, then pacing the traffic they are trying to avoid? I can't imagine they are just some sort of traffic angels that are taking a financial bullet for everyone else on the road.

[brutal]

I must not be painting a good picture here. It isn't ever "all those cars." That would make sense because it would mean that there was so much traffic that all lanes are full with no where to go. No reason to be frustrated with the guy in front of you in that situation because he can't go anywhere. I'm talking about being able to see beyond the person that is pacing traffic. Sometimes I'm not even in the pay lane. I'm the guy in the left lane, and someone is driving the same speed as me in the pay lane. What are these people paying to use the open lane for, then pacing the traffic they are trying to avoid? I can't imagine they are just some sort of traffic angels that are taking a financial bullet for everyone else on the road.

Sounds like self appointed speed police. I see them everywhere. Especially on c-470 every morning.