Tesla is having some big network issues

[Bailey Guns]

We're gonna get to the point where we have to call tech support in India for car trouble.

Me: "Yeah, hi. My car won't start."

Tech Support (with Indian accent): "OK, I see. Let's try this. Shut it off and turn it on again."

Me: "Uh...Is there someone in America I can talk to."

[DireWolf]

Even big players like AWS have significant issues... The kind of issues that cause global companies to lose their shit... And they have all the triple redundant, super duper overkill possible for their data centers and services.

To be fair, these types of issues (high-impact event, system/comms failure, etc.) nearly always stem from root-cause considerations related to ego and some combination of incompetence/overconfidence (even if we call it something more polite), manifested in various ways and deficiencies...Nearly. Always.

We're gonna get to the point where we have to call tech support in India for car trouble.

Me: "Yeah, hi. My car won't start."

Tech Support (with Indian accent): "OK, I see. Let's try this. Shut it off and turn it on again."

Me: "Uh...Is there someone in America I can talk to."

Made me think of this scene:

https://youtu.be/lbfV7EQpz_I

[68Charger]

Also gets old hearing people hype a product they don't even own...

The louder the BS on one side, the louder it'll get on the other.

[izzy]

I want to be clear that everything I said stipulated that I have no idea how true what I've read is. I've actually driven a Tesla many times they're very cool cars. My major beef with Elon Musk is that he took billions of our tax dollars for his companies. I'm not cool with that at all.

[Jer]

Well said... You've got me beat a few years on the tech career... but only a few.
And it's called confirmation bias- if you WANT it to be the answer to your dreams, you'll do everything you can to keep that dream alive, even if you can't buy one.

I'm a realist, I try to see the big picture- and believe there are 3 sides to every story- the proponents, the antagonists, and the truth. I've read about people that have been without their model S for 3 months because they were in an accident (not their fault), and Tesla doesn't make enough spare parts to fix their car. You pay what, $100k (before tax incentives... but also before sales tax, Title & License fees) to have it taken out by some asshole who's on their phone? Sure, that'll happen with other vehicles, but they have spare parts and can be back on the road much quicker. Sure, I've also read the rave reviews, people who can't stop talking about them- and then sometimes I find out they don't even own one.

I've read, I looked into it- with an open mind... and No Thanks. not anything I would want to spend even $49K (minus Tax credit, but plus TTL) on for a Model 3... or somewhere in the middle for a used Model S or X.

If I won the lottery, I'd really consider the new roadster- it's a very nice toy.
Eventually I'm sure something like them will be mainstream... I appreciate the technology, I just don't want to rely on it yet.

Who says I can't buy one? Now you pretend to know my financial situation too?

Funny you've read about people being w/o their cars for months because I have too only it was people who had mailed out cars & trucks of various makes & models who couldn't find a shop w/o months of lead time. So? Hell, our car right now was MUCH cheaper than a Tesla & currently has an open recall for an airbag issue that not only do they not have a fix for but it's likely going to be months until they do. What's your point?

I'm not spending $50k or $100k on a new car either. That doesn't mean I'm not interested in paying a fraction of that for a clean used one if the right deal came along. I'm just not getting a car payment for one nor am I taking the new car depreciation hit for ANY new car.

That new roadster is insane but until a regular Joe can buy one it's vaporware. Just like the Model 3 was & the S before that. Each time though we were promised something that seemed impossible & each time we were made to eat our words so I'm done doubting Tesla. I think that Roadster is everything they say it's going to be.

Nobody is saying you have to rely on squat just stop hating on them & spreading false information. Just be content to watch how the play unfolds from the sideline.

I want to be clear that everything I said stipulated that I have no idea how true what I've read is. I've actually driven a Tesla many times they're very cool cars. My major beef with Elon Musk is that he took billions of our tax dollars for his companies. I'm not cool with that at all.

What's that you said about confirmation bias 68Charger?

[68Charger]

Who says I can't buy one? Now you pretend to know my financial situation too?

You're sure taking this real personally... the confirmation bias statement was meant as a general statement about people who Tesla worship.

I don't care about your financial situation, I don't care if you go buy a Tesla... you asked why I keep arguing- because you keep selling them, or at least the IDEA.
It's like crossfit for the automobile world. oh, and you keep referring to hate... I don't hate Tesla, I don't hate Elon Musk, I don't hate EVs... just because I don't buy into the idea, doesn't mean I hate.

BTW, I'm not buying the Ed Brown analogy, either... let me know when you'll carry one daily as a duty weapon AND you have to add a biometric lock to it, so it will only fire when the owner is holding it.

[izzy]

Wait, are you saying I have bias or I don't?

[Gman]

Wait, are you saying I have bias or I don't?

Everyone has bias. If someone tells you they're "unbiased", they're lying.

[MrPrena]

Everyone has bias. If someone tells you they're "unbiased", they're lying.

Yes, I myself is favor of some manufacturer over others. Like, I have bias and lean towards BMW Ms, than Stupid Daimler MB AMG pos. In fact, I gotta go to MB Westminster dealership tomorrow morning and pickup a loaner car again. Preference also changes relative to time. I disliked Toyota and Hyundai during the 90s. Now, I prefer those over Honda.

ONLY way i would buy a tesla is , if I made 2x of cost of tesla in a week off of buying/selling cheapo options on TSLA.


Oh yeah, So far, I had no damn issue(s) with Hyundai Elantra.

[izzy]

Everyone has bias. If someone tells you they're "unbiased", they're lying.

We're getting a little philosophical for a conversation about cars.