Tesla is having some big network issues

[Irving]

I miss Saab.

[brutal]

I miss Saab.

The real Saab, not the GM saab.

I bought a 900 brand new in Germany in 1984 right before I left. Sold it around 1990. Great reliable car.

[Irving]

I only had a little experience with a Saab 9-3. Any car manufacturer that puts turbos in cars gets my attention. Did you know that Chrysler (Dodge?) had a 5-speed, turbo, minivan? I want to say it was also AWD, but not sure.

[68Charger]

I only had a little experience with a Saab 9-3. Any car manufacturer that puts turbos in cars gets my attention. Did you know that Chrysler (Dodge?) had a 5-speed, turbo, minivan? I want to say it was also AWD, but not sure.

The AWD was always an automatic... and they never mated the AWD auto to the turbo 4cyl . The 5-speed minivans were rare and early models.

[Irving]

Sounds about right. One was traded in when I was working at Medved.

[brutal]

I only had a little experience with a Saab 9-3. Any car manufacturer that puts turbos in cars gets my attention. Did you know that Chrysler (Dodge?) had a 5-speed, turbo, minivan? I want to say it was also AWD, but not sure.

I always swore I would buy another one if they made an AWD model. Sadly that only happened after GM took over. By then, I had moved on.

It was a great car. Sold it with the original clutch and 120K on the clock despite the wife's driving habits.

[68Charger]

About redundancy: I worked on a project whose DR datacenters were fairly close to, and on either side of the San Andreas fault in the bay area.

Back in my DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) days we had a customer who ran DR datacenters in buildings 1 and 2 of the World Trade Center. In one day that company's personnel and data ceased to exist.

My last project had DR running between the bay area, Colorado Springs and Boise. In terms of disasters we talked earthquakes, nukes and volcanoes.

O2

Prime examples of redundancy without diversity... I've also seen well done diverse backup systems where the backup was not monitored... had been down for months when the primary failed.

Mention of DEC takes me back, did a lot of work with them over the years... and a customer with Datacenters in the WTC could have very well been one of our customers, too. That impacted lots of our customers, we worked our asses off before market open after 9/11... our backbone stayed up, but the LEC lost a complete CO in one of the buildings... virtually every customer had another circuit with a CLEC for diversity., but we had many customers back on redundant circuits before that first market day after.

Beancounters are the bane of properly diverse networks... always trying to consolidate equipment, circuits and buildings to save $$$. We'd ask them what would the cost to the company be if we are on the front page of the WSJ because a lack of diversity in the network caused the market to close?

There's also a tradeoff between latency and diversity... "of course the backup path has a higher latency, it can't take the shortest path- that's where the primary is" "no sir, we can't put it on the shortest path too... then they'd both be down right now"

[Gman]

After the first WTC attack in 1993, many of the financial institutions setup redundant systems across the river in New Jersey.

Close enough to be online and real-time, but far enough away to not be directly impacted at an infrastructure level by another attack. I doubt anyone expected to have their personnel impacted as it was in the second attack.