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    Default SBR registered receiver in non-SBR format.

    I'm trying to evaluate my needs.

    If I want to take my SBR to shoot in another state, I know I have to fill out a 5320.20.

    Does this apply to an AR receiver registered as an SBR with a full rifle upper on it? Or in that configuration is it just a standard rifle?

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    I would treat it as an SBR no matter what the configuration it is because it is a registered SBR; but that's just me.
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    You cant unring the SBR bell.

    Well, actually you can. But adding a non-NFA upper does not make it a non-NFA item.
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    But to an everyday LE officer, they would like see a normal length rifle and not ask to see papers/stamp.

    But what is the requirement for transport in a single day? Say you were near the border, and crossed to have lunch, get gas, ect. and return the same day. Maybe unplanned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    But to an everyday LE officer, they would like see a normal length rifle and not ask to see papers/stamp.

    But what is the requirement for transport in a single day? Say you were near the border, and crossed to have lunch, get gas, ect. and return the same day. Maybe unplanned.
    One thing I will not do is break the law no matter how unlikely it is to get caught with it. I will not cross state lines with an SBR without first filing the appropriate paperwork. I paid to play and them's the rules.

    I mainly asked because when I registered the SBR, it was the entire rifle - I had to enter the overall length of the rifle as well as the barrel. I wasn't just registering a lower.

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    The answer to your question is only available to Authorized persons. A couple years ago I saved this address and faq question and answer-
    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-...urposes-intent
    May the short barrel on an SBR or SBS be replaced with a long barrel for hunting or other purposes, with the intent of replacing the short barrel?
    Yes, and you will not be required to again register the firearm before replacing the short barrel. ATF recommends written notification to the NFA Branch when a firearm’s configuration is permanently changed or removed from the purview of the NFA.

    I just tried the link and got this-
    "Access denied
    You are not authorized to access this page."

    So I don't know.

    It makes me think that there is a Deep State infiltrator screwing with people.
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    Don't forget other state local laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAnd View Post
    The answer to your question is only available to Authorized persons. A couple years ago I saved this address and faq question and answer-
    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-...urposes-intent
    May the short barrel on an SBR or SBS be replaced with a long barrel for hunting or other purposes, with the intent of replacing the short barrel?
    Yes, and you will not be required to again register the firearm before replacing the short barrel. ATF recommends written notification to the NFA Branch when a firearm’s configuration is permanently changed or removed from the purview of the NFA.

    I just tried the link and got this-
    "Access denied
    You are not authorized to access this page."

    So I don't know.

    It makes me think that there is a Deep State infiltrator screwing with people.
    That would be awesome if it is still true. Will call the ATF tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattiooo View Post
    - I had to enter the overall length of the rifle as well as the barrel. I wasn't just registering a lower.
    No. You were registering the Lower with a specific barrel length. The upper is not a firearm, no matter the designation of the receiver (serialized part). If for some reason there's an issue, you must show the SBR is able to return to the original configuration / bbl length .
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    As usual, I didn’t express myself fully. I am thinking a temporary change for use in a shoot in another state. With the intent to return it to sbr form in the end.

    Exactly as worded in what Sand posted that is now a broken link was my real original question.

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