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    We can't reintroduce wolves and grizzly bears fast enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Yes, but to be fair, as much as it pains me, I was kinda in agreement with him there because I figured if we just raised the limit we'd never get rid of the idea of a mag ban and never get rid of the Universal Background Checks (which is eve more egregious if you ask me) ... that said in retrospect the compromise would probably have been a more good thing than bad because frankly after this next election I don't think Colorado comes back to the reddish purple it used to be and will slide into the sea with CA before we see another Republican governor and if we lose the Senate we'll never get it back (and we're certainly not getting rid of the mag ban or UBCs unless the courts step in).
    Maybe an unenforced 15 round limit is better than an enforced 30 round limit

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    <replying to Will's point about enforced vs unenforced>
    You may not remember when all this damnfoolishness passed the summer after Sandy Hook.
    Colorado politicians proposed maybe seven or ten bills re: guns.

    One of the bills proposed was for strict liability: where the owner could be held responsible for any damages.
    Suppose a thief steals your car with an AR in it. He gets in a firefight, like what we had here in Colorado Springs several months ago, and kills a police officer.
    Congratulations! You will be charged!

    This bill did not pass, but the politicians sure were anxious to pass everything they could.
    My representative acknowledged my email and mentioned his concern, three months after he voted for the magazine ban.
    My senator never acknowledged my email; he was one of the leaders on the bandwagon. I happily signed the petition for his recall.
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    But the magazine capacity law is still on the books.
    What happens when you get in an accident, and your trunk lid won't stay shut?
    A politician somewhere will get enthusiastic about enforcing it.
    Won't someone please think of the children ?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    We can't reintroduce wolves and grizzly bears fast enough.
    We have coyotes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    Ouch. One judge refers to a magazine as "cartridges" when discussing removable base plates.

    I see the points made, and perhaps the judges have grasped the fundamental flaw in the current law, but jeeze.
    But other judges have not, and in my opinion, that is the crux, a de facto gun ban. That is what I stated in my report, as the expert witness for RMGO. Yes, the law could be re-written, but Hickenlooper and his attorneys do not have the legal option of re-writing the law.
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    The law will remain unenforced...right up to the point when it is opportune to enforce it. The same goes for all the other silly horseshit that the Dems crammed down our throats during the 2013 legislative session. They are quite alright with flexing their muscles, but whine and cry when Republicans to the same (ie, Kavanaugh).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will1776 View Post
    Maybe an unenforced 15 round limit is better than an enforced 30 round limit
    Except for what Zund is alluding to with the upcoming election.

    If things don't go the way we want here in Nov, which is VERY likely, we could have an enforced 15rd limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    The law will remain unenforced...right up to the point when it is opportune to enforce it. The same goes for all the other silly horseshit that the Dems crammed down our throats during the 2013 legislative session. They are quite alright with flexing their muscles, but whine and cry when Republicans to the same (ie, Kavanaugh).
    Yep.

    It isn't out of the realm of reality, IMO, to see someone get crosswise of the state .gov, and get brought up on "illegal magazine" charges as either a revenge action, or simply an adder. Then they can point to "look at those evil gun people breaking the law"...
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    Topical to this thread so I'm not starting a new one...

    https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov...ights-citizens


    This doesn't address NY's mag ban but starts to chip away at the blatantly unConstitutional restrictions in NYC. The brief addresses the restrictions both as being unConstitutional and being bad policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant H. View Post
    Except for what Zund is alluding to with the upcoming election.

    If things don't go the way we want here in Nov, which is VERY likely, we could have an enforced 15rd limit.
    And the other argument is that if we agree that the argument is just about the number of rounds limited, the 15rd limit turned 30 could easily be changed a 10 or 5 rd limit.
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