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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    And the other argument is that if we agree that the argument is just about the number of rounds limited, the 15rd limit turned 30 could easily be changed a 10 or 5 rd limit.
    Which wouldn't have limited our legal options one bit when they inevitably broke their word.

    30 would have put the ban outside of common use as 30 rounders are common use for the AR/AK platforms giving us less standing. Would have been harder to challenge that. If the debate was between 30 and unlimited it was foolish to let 15 win.

    I think the answer is going to come out of CA or NY and should apply to all states. NYSafe was already ruled an arbitrary ban at 7 rounds. It's 10 now but no less arbitrary, just what some judge thought was reasonable. No modern pistol/rifle, as issued, has such a limit that I know of (maybe .50BMG and shotguns).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    The law will remain unenforced...right up to the point when it is opportune to enforce it. The same goes for all the other silly horseshit that the Dems crammed down our throats during the 2013 legislative session. They are quite alright with flexing their muscles, but whine and cry when Republicans to the same (ie, Kavanaugh).
    How would they even enforce it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will1776 View Post
    How would they even enforce it?
    How do they enforce drug laws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will1776 View Post
    How would they even enforce it?
    I would imagine they would enforce it any time they arrest someone who is in possession of a >15 rd mag, either by getting them to confess that they obtained the mag after 7/1/13 or by asserting that they obtained the mag after 7/1/13 and then putting the defendant in a position of essentially having to prove his innocence (and yes, I know the law explicitly says that the burden of proof is on the prosecution but that doesn't prevent a zealous prosecutor from going ahead and charging the offense anyway.)

    They could also enforce by 'sting' operations, i.e, try to get people to buy or obtain >15rd mags through online sales, gun shows, etc.

    Hell, there are gun shops right now that sell >15 rd mags in disassembled form as "repair kits" or sell them with the stipulation that they must be taken out of state or used for LE or military use only (as if military people buy their mags at a LGS.)* So they could start by cracking down on them.

    In fact, that would make a great headline, wouldn't it? I can see the Local News scare headline now: "LOCAL SHOP SELLS ILLEGAL CLIPS AND COPS DO NOTHING TO STOP IT!" Great opportunity for some enterprising DA to get his name in the paper by busting these flagrant violators of state law.

    *(And before someone asks, no, I'm not going to tell you which gun shops do this.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    I would imagine they would enforce it any time they arrest someone who is in possession of a >15 rd mag, either by getting them to confess that they obtained the mag after 7/1/13 or by asserting that they obtained the mag after 7/1/13 and then putting the defendant in a position of essentially having to prove his innocence (and yes, I know the law explicitly says that the burden of proof is on the prosecution but that doesn't prevent a zealous prosecutor from going ahead and charging the offense anyway.)

    They could also enforce by 'sting' operations, i.e, try to get people to buy or obtain >15rd mags through online sales, gun shows, etc.

    Hell, there are gun shops right now that sell >15 rd mags in disassembled form as "repair kits" or sell them with the stipulation that they must be taken out of state or used for LE or military use only (as if military people buy their mags at a LGS.)* So they could start by cracking down on them.

    In fact, that would make a great headline, wouldn't it? I can see the Local News scare headline now: "LOCAL SHOP SELLS ILLEGAL CLIPS AND COPS DO NOTHING TO STOP IT!" Great opportunity for some enterprising DA to get his name in the paper by busting these flagrant violators of state law.

    *(And before someone asks, no, I'm not going to tell you which gun shops do this.)
    Hell some gun shops don't even take them apart. I also won't say names, but I respect them for fighting the good fight.

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    Too bad Burt Reynolds died. We could send him to Texakana to bring back a semi loaded with 30 round mags for the thirsty AR/AKs here in Colorado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    Too bad Burt Reynolds died. We could send him to Texakana to bring back a semi loaded with 30 round mags for the thirsty AR/AKs here in Colorado.

    Does anyone remember when Coors started Pasteurization so they could ship past the Mississippi?

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    Moot point not even worth discussing IMHO, as long as we have a Democrat for a Governor and the ilk of the Demos we have had in the State legislature the Mag ban aint going anywhere.

    If Polis gets in (very likely IMO) magazines are likely to be the least of our worries.
    He has openly stated he feels CA and NY type firearms regulations are ideal to model CO's firearm regulations after.
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    If comrade Polis says it, it must be true.
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    Question is: If Polis gets in, will Colorado go bankrupt before or after the AW Bill?

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