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    Quote Originally Posted by asystejs View Post
    How about getting rid of districts completely ?

    Everyone picks 2 senators from the list of choices
    Everyone picks <n> representatives from the list of choices
    It's a good idea but after the 17th Amendment, this would duplicate the popular election of Senators.

    The idea of the House was direct citizen representation which is why the districting is local. The Senate was supposed to be equalized state representation.

    Had the Senate remained state representation, this idea would make complete sense to me. I'd have to think about what that means in terms of the battle lines being drawn in Colorado; rural vs Denver/Boulder. But it's not a bad idea.

    It's only because we have bastardized the Constitution that we are led down a path of bad and worse options.
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    Chuck and Julie were talking about this today. They had the (R) leader from Adams county commenting on it, they advocated a NO vote partially based on my original decision to vote NO.

    The communists will just stack the commission with their fellow travelers. Anyone who thinks the "Independents" that will be on this panel are going to be unbaised is probably smoking dope, "Independents" are usually leftists who just don't register as (D).

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    The way I see it is, if an issue looks like it will actually be good for conservatives then somewhere, somehow, a Democrat is rubbing his hands together with a smirk.

    Do we expect Republicans to always follow party lines? I don't. The Dems sure will. The Indies will follow D lines a lot.

    I just don't trust this to not blow up in our faces.
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    I am still a no on these. The Republican Party in Colorado has let Republican voters down for years so I'm not exactly bolstered by the fact that 4 of the named commissioners will be R. Given how easy Dems made it to change affiliations, they can easily slip sleepers in and the headline in the Denver Post and TV news will be "indepedent commission said to" ...

    Hold politicians and political parties directly accountable, don't let them pretend to put things on so-called "independent" commissions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    I am still a no on these. The Republican Party in Colorado has let Republican voters down for years so I'm not exactly bolstered by the fact that 4 of the named commissioners will be R. Given how easy Dems made it to change affiliations, they can easily slip sleepers in and the headline in the Denver Post and TV news will be "indepedent commission said to" ...
    There needs to be a time requirement for membership in a party. In order to be considered a "Republican" on the commission, you should have been registered as a Republican for a least two election cycles. OR the parties get to pick their commissioners at their conventions. Of course this still means Democrats can futz with the "Independents".


    I've really agonized over this one, but then I went and looked at the endorsers on the campaign's web site https://fairmapscolorado.com/endorsers/ and I remind myself that Democrats are evil and Republicans are stupid ... too many D's (especially WAY LEFT D's) like this therefore it must be evil.

    If D's hated it, I'd vote for it.

    It's got huge bipartisan support so I expect it'll pass, but not with my help.
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    Amendment Y & Z (brought by ?Fair Maps Colorado? and Kent Thiry)
    Major Donors: FOR -
    Action Now Initiative TX DEMOCRAT Owners (John and Laura Arnold) - $605,000
    Michael Bloomberg NY DEMOCRAT - $500,000
    Kent Thiry CO ?UAF? LEANS LEFT - $400,000
    Pat Stryker CO DEMOCRAT - $400,000
    Donald Sussman FL DEMOCRAT - $200,000
    Adam Abram NC LEANS LEFT - $100,000
    SIXTEEN THIRTY FUND, DC, - $68,000 (also gave to $1,415,000 Stop PayDay Loans)

    Vote NO


    You shouldn't trust any of these people. 98 out of 100 of them are corrupt or total stooges. All the communists are all for it...the league of women voters = fabian socialists. yeah, vote NO on this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavieD55 View Post
    Amendment Y & Z (brought by ?Fair Maps Colorado? and Kent Thiry)
    Major Donors: FOR -
    Action Now Initiative TX DEMOCRAT Owners (John and Laura Arnold) - $605,000
    Michael Bloomberg NY DEMOCRAT - $500,000
    Kent Thiry CO ?UAF? LEANS LEFT - $400,000
    Pat Stryker CO DEMOCRAT - $400,000
    Donald Sussman FL DEMOCRAT - $200,000
    Adam Abram NC LEANS LEFT - $100,000
    SIXTEEN THIRTY FUND, DC, - $68,000 (also gave to $1,415,000 Stop PayDay Loans)

    Vote NO


    You shouldn't trust any of these people. 98 out of 100 of them are corrupt or total stooges. All the communists are all for it...the league of women voters = fabian socialists. yeah, vote NO on this!
    Guess my gut was right, then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavieD55 View Post
    Amendment Y & Z (brought by ?Fair Maps Colorado? and Kent Thiry)
    Major Donors: FOR -
    Action Now Initiative TX DEMOCRAT Owners (John and Laura Arnold) - $605,000
    Michael Bloomberg NY DEMOCRAT - $500,000
    Kent Thiry CO ?UAF? LEANS LEFT - $400,000
    Pat Stryker CO DEMOCRAT - $400,000
    Donald Sussman FL DEMOCRAT - $200,000
    Adam Abram NC LEANS LEFT - $100,000
    SIXTEEN THIRTY FUND, DC, - $68,000 (also gave to $1,415,000 Stop PayDay Loans)

    Vote NO


    You shouldn't trust any of these people. 98 out of 100 of them are corrupt or total stooges. All the communists are all for it...the league of women voters = fabian socialists. yeah, vote NO on this!
    I voted prior to reading this but THANK YOU for finding and posting it.

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    I voted NO.

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    If it's got a penny of Bloomberg money in it, it's a NO.

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