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    Nothing will ever exist again without surveillance, but I'd still argue that is a better situation than active censorship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Nothing will ever exist again without surveillance, but I'd still argue that is a better situation than active censorship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SideShow Bob View Post
    You’ve must have tried to access this site from a Kaiser Permente WiFi. There, this site is no bueno.
    Truth is the time is soon upon us where if you really want to use the internet unmolested you're going to need a VPN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Truth is the time is soon upon us where if you really want to use the internet unmolested you're going to need a VPN.
    And then they'll crack down on VPNs. With all the collusion it would be easy for the providers/services to work together to white list IPs and black list unknowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    And then they'll crack down on VPNs. With all the collusion it would be easy for the providers/services to work together to white list IPs and black list unknowns.

    It's a war. We can play defense and lose, or we can kick the enemy's ass and burn his shit to the ground.
    I'm already starting to see this... I use VPN virtually all the time, and I'm seeing more and more sites that don't work unless I change locations on my VPN service or shut it down and go native.
    My VPN service has a way to "report" problems like this, but feels like tilting at windmills.


    BTW, I'm going to take your advice and eat the vegans first... scheduling a butcher date on one of our steers for the first time... got another one that's close behind.

    Techically cattle are vegans... because they're herbivores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    BTW, I'm going to take your advice and eat the vegans first... scheduling a butcher date on one of our steers for the first time... got another one that's close behind.

    Techically cattle are vegans... because they're herbivores.
    All cattle have had dairy though 😂

    And you can?t be vegan unless you talk about it all the time.
    Always eat the vegans first

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    And you can?t be vegan unless you talk about it all the time.
    And get a statistically significant percentage of your protein from all of the field mice, rabbits, grasshoppers and other bugs that get ground up into all that grain you eat. And feed your dogs and cats food made from ground up animals.
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    If YouTube lifted their restrictions on what were allowed to be shown, but required viewers to subscribe to their YouTube Red channel, would you pay for the service?

    I think I would, because the info on YouTube is just too valuable to pass up.

    If YouTube had zero restrictions on what could be posted/viewed by purchased subscriptions, would you still pay for the access, knowing that there would likely be a whole lot more of stuff you find unacceptable to be hosted, would you pay for the service?

    I realize that this isn't likely to happen and YouTube is trying to pick some dumb stance based on a loud minority, but I am interested in those questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    And get a statistically significant percentage of your protein from all of the field mice, rabbits, grasshoppers and other bugs that get ground up into all that grain you eat. And feed your dogs and cats food made from ground up animals.
    ��

    I don’t want to even think about it! I know the FDA has an allowable amount for those special ingredients. And the allowable amount is greater than zero.
    Always eat the vegans first

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    All cattle have had dairy though ��

    And you can?t be vegan unless you talk about it all the time.
    Is baby formula vegan?
    I know they MAKE vegan baby formula, but I'll bet the vast majority of "vegan" humans have consumed milk from one mammal or another.

    And they do talk about it plenty when they think it's feeding time...

    And just like human vegans, I really can't understand what they're saying.
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