I used to trap in Michigan.. moved out here and sold most of my traps. Gander mtn used to have traps.. i thought the murdochs off santa fe used to have them but havent checked in a while. Pm if you have any questions. F&T trading post is the best place to order from. They may be expensive but awesome costumer service, good people, and im pretty sure none of them worked for McDonalds because my order was always correct.