New "twisted light" fiber optics technology

[Delfuego]

Any article that mentions "Game Changer" is out for me. Too much game changer, perfect storm bs. Does anyone really think a company like Comcast would upgrade to this when they still haven't upgraded from coax. Comcast regularly tells me that my customers need to pay $20-$40k just to run a couple hundred feet of copper/fiber/whatever to the office building. I am not holding my breath for any innovation by nearly any American ISP's. Seoul Korea residents were getting 1gb fiber for $30 15 years ago. We now have 100mb for $100+ here in the good ol' usa...

[Grant H.]

Any article that mentions "Game Changer" is out for me. Too much game changer, perfect storm bs. Does anyone really think a company like Comcast would upgrade to this when they still haven't upgraded from coax. Comcast regularly tells me that my customers need to pay $20-$40k just to run a couple hundred feet of copper/fiber/whatever to the office building. I am not holding my breath for any innovation by nearly any American ISP's. Seoul Korea residents were getting 1gb fiber for $30 15 years ago. We now have 100mb for $100+ here in the good ol' usa...

Same old apples and oranges comparison with Seoul for internet speeds... It means nothing in reality.

Seoul ISP's have 10 million customers in a 200 sq mile area. It's called population density. It makes problems like broadband much simpler.

Good 'ol USA has more customers, but over a much larger area (3.8 million sq miles). As fiber has become more widely available, the prices have dropped dramatically. I have 1gbps fiber to the home for $60/month. Folks I know in VERY rural CO and WY have fiber to home for reasonable costs. One of the bigger issues with roll out of FTTH in the US is bureaucracy. Thornton had a group interested in starting to roll out FTTH, and they got shut down because they couldn't guarantee having EVERY SINGLE home in Thornton connected. Could have had a large portion moved to FTTH, but city bureaucrats got in their own way and fubar'd the whole thing up.

As for realistic data for South Korean internet, the AVERAGE internet speed in Seoul is ~30Mbps... (2017 statistics)
Average for the rest of the world is 7Mbps. (2017 Statistics)

So yeah, they pay less for better.
Gigabit for $30/month 15 years ago? LOL. Not even close buddy.

[BladesNBarrels]

...Seoul Korea residents were getting 1gb fiber for $30 15 years ago...

Home, sweet home..

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But, I got me some 1 gig internet access!

[Gman]

I'm hearing about 5G cell networks eventually overtaking any land based networks, with 5G being incredibly fast for any normal user for anything including streaming video. Is this pie in the sky stuff?

How do you think all of those 5G cell towers will connect you to things? With really beefy fiber backbones. The 5G part is 'last mile' type of connectivity (yes I know it covers more than a mile).

The latest 5G announcements from Verizon were really important because of the investments they have put into their fiber.

[GilpinGuy]

Dang, all hope is lost for decent internet up here.

[Delfuego]

My point is that we are standing in our own way on these issue. Can it be done, yes. Will we ever see it, no. In areas of high density in the US we still have nothing even resembling fast, consistent internet. I deal with this on a daily basis. We are not falling behind, we are getting lapped. Most gigabyte internet in the US is over COAX cable with BNC (british navel connectors). The is some bullshit right here. It only provisions 10mb up on a good day and the techs that are deploying have told me "it blows".

And yes they did have GB fiber for $30 15 years ago.

And 5G is not even a thing yet. We just like making things sound faster. Maybe they will have 5.5G in my area soon for my new iPhone 11

[68Charger]

My point is that we are standing in our own way on these issue. Can it be done, yes. Will we ever see it, no. In areas of high density in the US we still have nothing even resembling fast, consistent internet. I deal with this on a daily basis. We are not falling behind, we are getting lapped. Most gigabyte internet in the US is over COAX cable with BNC (british navel connectors). The is some bullshit right here. It only provisions 10mb up on a good day and the techs that are deploying have told me "it blows".

And yes they did have GB fiber for $30 15 years ago.

And 5G is not even a thing yet. We just like making things sound faster. Maybe they will have 5.5G in my area soon for my new iPhone 11

Just who is this "we" you're blaming? 10Mbps upload is functional for 99% of users, what's the latency? And what does the connector type got to do with it? With copper, distance is limiting factor (now we're back to pop. density) if you liver where fiber is deployed, the oversubscription rate of your provider will determine your speed... the fiber itself can do 100Gbps with the right equipment... but only to the next hop.

If you think it's bad in metro areas, try living truly rural... I'd gladly shell out $150+/mo for 100Mbps out here... but ain't gonna happen... like Grant said, population density is key.

I'm paying $120/mo for 15Mbps business class (no throttles, no caps, no limits) and not bitching about it.
Provider can do 40Mbps for ~$300/mo for my location (based on signal strength)

How's the internet in North Korea? Just about as relevant as 15 year old cherry pickings in Seoul.

5G is being deployed in select cities (not in AZ or CO) right now on a preliminary standard (as I already mentioned)... 300Mbps for $50/mo is what I read, final standard will top out well above 1Gbps. Irrelevent where I live, but I would never move to a metro area for better internet.

[Gman]

The 5G being deployed now is being used for research. We're still a few years away from full deployment at really high speeds/bandwidth.

[BigBear]

I just want to play an occasion video game without lag.... lol

[Gman]

I just want to play an occasion video game without lag.... lol

No kidding. This seems to be getting worse, depending on the game.