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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Kind of like a fraternity, only with less monthly dues
    And uglier chicks.
    Te occidere possunt sed te edere non possunt nefas est

    Sane person with a better sight picture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    There are plenty of accounts and books and whatever of people that have gotten sucked in White Supremacist groups.

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    Always eat the vegans first

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    Lol, whoops. Auto correct is killing me today. I'm need to log off for a while, my posting has even been annoying me lately.
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Lol, whoops. Auto correct is killing me today. I'm need to log off for a while, my posting has even been annoying me lately.
    It was funny man, I lol'd.

    And it was needed levity.
    Always eat the vegans first

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    It's hard to accept that life sucks and there's no valid reason justification or explanation for it. A lot of people struggle with that fundamental matter, in different ways.
    I think this is the biggest problem with many, many people.

    Life really sucks if a person doesn't take responsibility for their own actions.

    Change comes from within.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    I'd say life generally sucks for just about everybody, for a good portion of their life, (some for their entire life), some far, far worse than others, and taking responsibility for ones own actions usually may have little to do with it. Where and whom you were born to can matter an impressive amount. Genetics matter even more. This is the dilemma that people have to deal with and clashes with fundamental ingrained beliefs about government and religion, and it's about as shocking to the psyche as anything can be.

    e.g.
    If your sibling gets in a car crash and is on life support, you may fall into religion to "fix" your sibling. Yet, they perish anyway after months in a coma.
    If you get terminal cancer in your early twenties, you may fall into trusting religion to cure you and let you continue life, and at the end of your life, you still have the same terminal cancer.
    If you get raped, you may fall into trusting the gov't to respond and catch the perpetrator. Yet, it gets twisted around and morphs into a grotesque monster in the legal system.
    Someone sues you frivolously, you may fall into trusting the legal system to do it's job and throw it out promptly. Yet, it is another grotesque monster in the legal system and you lose all your assets (to attorneys, or judgement, or whatever)..
    Someone burglarizes your home and burns it down, you may fall into trusting the system to restore you (insurance) and the gov't to catch them (justice) yet both fail you and you are virtually homeless for a couple years.
    You develop a critical genetic disease. Whelp, not your fault. You might trust something to develop medicine or a cure, but when it doesn't happen...

    These are just a few examples.

    Personal responsibility doesn't really enter into these equations - it does others. But it's these that entrap "normal" "healthy" people into the hard psychological question that is easiest answered by falling upon "EVERYTHING IS A CONSPIRACY" mind-think. Or any alternative explanation (it's their own fault) or ancient explanations (they are cursed, they sinned, etc.)

    The alternative is worse:
    1) People you love are going to die and you have no control over it.
    2) You're going to die and you have no control over it.
    3) You live within a broken political, legal, and government system, which will do nothing it promised for you when you need it most.
    4) Life's not fair, no, but - really.
    5) Existence may be inconsequential.

    Certainly, there are people that don't take personal responsibility in life that breed deeper problems; but the majority of the worst suckage of life oft cannot legitimately be blamed on anything at all, and psychology seems to need something to blame or explain it away.
    I was thinking on the small scale, you're in the macro and you're right.

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