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    I'm not asking for advice here, or for me. I was just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I'm not asking for advice here, or for me. I was just curious.
    That wasn't directed at you specifically, just a catch-all to those reading it. I don't want Hell's accountants coming after me on their fuel-efficient scooters.
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    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, we are the III%, CIP2, and some other catchphrase meant to aggravate progreSSives who are hell bent on taking rights away...

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    It's a "fee" not a tax. No tax evasion then.

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    I'll say first that I don't support this, but there is something in here that would benefit us childfree folks.

    Current federal law mandates you can keep your job if you need to take time off from work to care for yourself or a loved one if they are sick or just gave birth. It does not, however, mandate you should be paid.
    When a family member is sick or a new baby is born, employees could then request benefits from the state.
    Obviously the wording of the actual bill could be different, but it seems to apply to FMLA or sick leave as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxy View Post
    I'll say first that I don't support this, but there is something in here that would benefit us childfree folks.





    Obviously the wording of the actual bill could be different, but it seems to apply to FMLA or sick leave as well.
    Those buzz words translate to: Once you've exhausted all PTO, sick days and any comp time. Sounds like a loose form of workers comp.
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    First legislative session was yesterday.

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    For all those that think that any of the Family Leave, single payer, etc are good ideas... (maybe a DEM is reading this).

    Here is a direct effect. I have 2 to 3 engineering positions I was going to fill this year. Not any more.

    I have to expand my manufacturing operations. My manufacturing orders went up 10X for Q2 2019. I will hire a few extra people but not many.

    Basically, DEMS have added to much uncertainty with respect to employees so until the dust settles, I try not to hire. And I have interviews with two engineers this morning. I have not decided if I will fill the open positions.

    So, the direct result is less hiring.

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    I will shut down my Classic car restoration operation here and do all my work from my AZ shop. I don't need this crap. Four employees will be let go or have to move to AZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT951 View Post
    For all those that think that any of the Family Leave, single payer, etc are good ideas... (maybe a DEM is reading this).

    Here is a direct effect. I have 2 to 3 engineering positions I was going to fill this year. Not any more.

    I have to expand my manufacturing operations. My manufacturing orders went up 10X for Q2 2019. I will hire a few extra people but not many.

    Basically, DEMS have added to much uncertainty with respect to employees so until the dust settles, I try not to hire. And I have interviews with two engineers this morning. I have not decided if I will fill the open positions.

    So, the direct result is less hiring.
    Can you elaborate a little more? Do these things raise your employee costs enough that the revenue generated by a 10x increase in orders does not offset 2-3 engineering positions?

    Just trying to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxy View Post
    Can you elaborate a little more? Do these things raise your employee costs enough that the revenue generated by a 10x increase in orders does not offset 2-3 engineering positions?

    Just trying to understand.
    Enough uncertainty that I won't hire as many as I would have.

    Also questioning where to manufacture. Was going to be CO. Arrived in in the EU this morning and this week discussing Czech production site.

    Having possible radical changes that drive up costs possible does not make businesses want to hire.

    One hope is participating in the "industry partnership" workshops over the family leave bill. We are hoping to try and help steer them away or not do too much damage. I dont have a lot of hope of working with DEMS.

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