Hey Marines - an 0313 question

[BushMasterBoy]

Just don't ship out. He can renegotiate the enlistment contract. They won't come and arrest him and deliver him to boot camp in handcuffs. For God's sake, get the job you love!

List of specialties below:

https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknF...Corps_MOS.html

[CS1983]

Just don't ship out. He can renegotiate the enlistment contract. They won't come and arrest him and deliver him to boot camp in handcuffs. For God's sake, get the job you love!

List of specialties below:

https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknF...Corps_MOS.html

Yes.

I did a Recruiting duty assignment between deployments. (DA selected for the Corporal Recruiting program; awful experience)

I was assigned to Southern California Recruiting Battalion. I saw some pretty dirty tactics to strong arm kids in the DEP program.

The one which sticks in my mind the most was this Hispanic kid. He joined and before he shipped, his mother wigged out. I don't know if he joined without her knowing, or what. But either way, she spoke almost no English. So he brought her to the Recruiting Station to tell our Station Commander (a weasel of a man; if I ever see him again, I'm punching his teeth all the way back to the Philippines from whence he slithered). The Panamanian SFC translated, along with the Mexican SSG. They were telling the mom that if he didn't go he'd be arrested and taken to Leavenworth and all sorts of awful, untrue crap. Poor madre was in absolute hysterical tears.

So I snuck out as I could tell it was wrapping up.

Once I saw them exit the Station, I called them over to where I was hanging out in the shadows (it was at night). Told the kid to translate for his mother so she would understand.

Told them the following:

1) everything they just told you is a lie
2) the first oath is just for the DEP program, and you are not bound to it; only the 2nd oath when you actually ship counts
3) not a single bit of legal trouble will come your way, and if you want to enlist again, or with another branch, you can
4) those men do NOT represent the United States Army and I am very sorry she had to go through this experience

She went from hysterics to tears of joy, thanking me profusely in rapid fire Spanish.

I'm not sure how it works for the USMC exactly, but I know that only the 2nd oath is what counts and no one should give away a portion of their life, or even the whole thing God forbid, unless they are doing what makes sense for them.

The US Army Southern California Recruiting Battalion can still kiss every sweaty hair on my ass.

[Shooter45]

Yes.

I did a Recruiting duty assignment between deployments. (DA selected for the Corporal Recruiting program; awful experience)

I was assigned to Southern California Recruiting Battalion. I saw some pretty dirty tactics to strong arm kids in the DEP program.

The one which sticks in my mind the most was this Hispanic kid. He joined and before he shipped, his mother wigged out. I don't know if he joined without her knowing, or what. But either way, she spoke almost no English. So he brought her to the Recruiting Station to tell our Station Commander (a weasel of a man; if I ever see him again, I'm punching his teeth all the way back to the Philippines from whence he slithered). The Panamanian SFC translated, along with the Mexican SSG. They were telling the mom that if he didn't go he'd be arrested and taken to Leavenworth and all sorts of awful, untrue crap. Poor madre was in absolute hysterical tears.

So I snuck out as I could tell it was wrapping up.

Once I saw them exit the Station, I called them over to where I was hanging out in the shadows (it was at night). Told the kid to translate for his mother so she would understand.

Told them the following:

1) everything they just told you is a lie
2) the first oath is just for the DEP program, and you are not bound to it; only the 2nd oath when you actually ship counts
3) not a single bit of legal trouble will come your way, and if you want to enlist again, or with another branch, you can
4) those men do NOT represent the United States Army and I am very sorry she had to go through this experience

She went from hysterics to tears of joy, thanking me profusely in rapid fire Spanish.

I'm not sure how it works for the USMC exactly, but I know that only the 2nd oath is what counts and no one should give away a portion of their life, or even the whole thing God forbid, unless they are doing what makes sense for them.

The US Army Southern California Recruiting Battalion can still kiss every sweaty hair on my ass.

It's only the official oath you take at Meps the night/morning before you ship off to recruit training. I don't remember taking a 1st oath but may have just don't remember for the Marines.

[Great-Kazoo]

It's only the official oath you take at Meps the night/morning before you ship off to recruit training. I don't remember taking a 1st oath but may have just don't remember for the Marines.

The 1st is a formality. The 2nd before you ship out, the day before to boot is the "official" one. At that time you're in or out the door.