Is this true? (Bumpstocks)

[Justin]

The Department disagrees that other firearms or devices, such as rifles, shotguns, and binary triggers, will be reclassified as machineguns under this rule.

- Page 83

[Bailey Guns]

Wait... The ATF "disagrees that other firearms or devices, such as rifles, shotguns, and binary triggers, will be reclassified as machineguns under this rule". Is that anything like the way they disagreed for years that bump-stocks will be reclassified as machine guns? Seriously? We're supposed to buy into that bullshit?

[Bailey Guns]

Stalin would be very proud of a lot of our alphabet agencies.

[Rucker61]

Wait... The ATF "disagrees that other firearms or devices, such as rifles, shotguns, and binary triggers, will be reclassified as machineguns under this rule". Is that anything like the way they disagreed for years that bump-stocks will be reclassified as machine guns? Seriously? We're supposed to buy into that bullshit?

My first thought, too. If they can't ban rubber bands, maybe they'll have to ban semiautomatic rifles.

[Justin]

Adam Kraut has filed a lawsuit.

Feel free to donate to support it here:

https://secure.anedot.com/firearms-p...bump_stock_ban

[Bailey Guns]

How does the ATF intent to enforce this executive order?

I see it as unenforceable as the CO mag limit nonsense.

I don't think so. The CO mag limit law puts a pretty difficult burden of proof on the state to prove your magazines are illegally possessed...you acquired them after the law went into effect. There's really no way to prove that for most magazines assuming the guns they were made for were around prior to the law taking affect.

With this, it's an outright ban. Obviously (or maybe not so obviously), they aren't gonna go door-to-door searching for bump stocks. But the mere fact you have the stock will be illegal. It won't matter when it was made, etc...it's just illegal. Period. That's a pretty easy standard to meet. Bump stocks are illegal to possess. roberth was found in possession of a bump stock. BAM! Pretty easy burden of proof.

Now, having said that, I don't think the ATF is gonna go out on a national scale search looking for bump stocks. But it gives them additional ammo to fire at you in the event you pop up on their radar.

I foresee something like: Mr & Mrs Jones get into a domestic. Cops are called. Mrs Jones says Mr Jones owns a shit-ton of guns. One thing leads to another and Mr Jones is hauled off to jail. Cops ask Mrs Jones if they can look thru Mr Jones' gun stuff, she willingly agrees, and they find banned bump stock.

It's my understanding violating the ban will be a felony. Even if the domestic doesn't stick now you're looking at a federal felony.

[hollohas]

I was surprised when this ban didn't get more pushback when it was first proposed. After the win a couple years ago, everyone on our side kinda sat back and relaxed. All the while more and more states passed some of the strictest anti-gun laws we've seen. CA, WA and others. Colorado will next year. But the Pro 2A population remains quiet and happy. Prices went down, ammo is plentiful, all is good. But it's not. The anti's are gaining ground just much more quietly now.

[Great-Kazoo]

? They also don't really serve the purpose the 2A is intended for, they'd be garbage in a practical application.

Where have i heard that before?

[Sixgun]

I think the bumpski’s are pretty stupid but damn don’t F with my bianary’s or Gisselle?s. I truly hope that Colorado won’t be Pu$$y like New Jersey.
I’m not liking the next wave of Blue in Colorado. I don?t even have my MP5 yet. BS.
Btw, donated to the cause.

[Firehaus]

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