I am a glutton for punishment...So after getting a deer with my ar 20" 6x45 this year, I have decided to go into another 6mm wildcat. Poodles are fun with the 6x45, but I'm hoping for 3ft flips versus my typical 2ft with the 6x45. To add insult to injury, my buddy says his valkyrie will smoke any 6mm, so let the moron games begin. Figuring that a 105vld out of a 22" barrel, around mid 2700 fps should give him and varmint cong a run for their money. Barrel is on order from ar perormance....I looked at the 6fatrat and 6ar turbo, and thunked the 6.8spc case would be better fit for what i want to do....