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    Grand Master Know It All SouthPaw's Avatar
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    Default Is there anything more satisfying than..

    Chasing a problem with your vehicle that has left you stranded, failed to start, rolling the dice anywhere you took it, having the old lady bitch at you to get rid of it, kicking and screaming at it, thinking she might be right, spending hours tearing into it thinking you have it fixed; then FINALLY finding the issue and fixing it? I have been chasing a no start/security system problem on my 2005 Silverado 1500 for the last six weeks. At random, I would go to start it and get a crank/no start. The security light would flash and I would have to do the relearn procedure which involves leaving the key in the ignition for 10 minutes, attempting to restart and repeat this for three times. Well the last time it did it, my gf and I were leaving an event at 9pm and it was a no start. Of course it happened to be freezing outside, it was dark and no one was around. She was done with it and so was I. I spent hours researching forums about the GM passlock issues and was ready to throw in the towel, take it to a shop or let it be someone else's headache.

    Today was my day! I decided to give it one last shot on my lunch break to look it over. I took apart the dash for the one hundredth time and there it was, one lone broken wire buried in between some others. It was barely visible but I could see some copper poking it's ugly head out. I traced the wire back which lead to the BCM at one end and the PASSLOCK sensor on the other at the ignition switch. I couldn't figure out how that wire could be broken but the truck still ran 75% of the time? Well upon further inspection, some wise guy figured out that the PASSLOCK sensors sends an OHM reading to the BCM from the passlock sensor and you can cut that wire to splice in a resistor (or two in series since he didn't have the right one). After removing some electrical tape, I found the two resistors with one of the ends snapped off. They were bypassing the system in order to install the aftermarket remote start that was no longer present on the truck. This would trick the truck into thinking it always had a key in the ignition. I am no mechanic but my dad was for the better part of my life but I can only imagine that the PASSLOCK sensor was getting a signal sometimes after the truck the was running and then on the other times when the resistors weren't making contact, causing the no start.

    I took all the crap out, soldered the wires back together, heat shrinked, a VOILA! It started with no lights! It was extremely tight in there so getting the iron and holding the wires in place was a bitch. It may not be pretty but it will hold. Oh the joys of owning older vehicles, being stubborn and the relief you get when you get it fixed. I think I am going to do a victory burnout in front of the house to show my gf the old girl still got it . She hates this truck but it just keeps going with 217K.

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    Eek. Scotchlocks are the worst thing ever invented. Might be worth your time to just get rid of all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    Eek. Scotchlocks are the worst thing ever invented. Might be worth your time to just get rid of all of them.
    That will be another project. All the wires are there from the aftermarket alarm system. I talked to Car Toys and I think I can get them to remove it all and clean it all up for $60.
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    Nice work. Sounds like the $60 for Car Toys might be some well-spent $$.

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    Good find and fix !
    Don’t you feel like a doof when something like that was in front of your face the whole time....
    But also feel like the “Man” when you do find it and fix it.

    Warning, You will have the same intermittent problems sometime in the future, those solder joints on each end of that patch are what is called “cold solder joints”
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    Well done. Intermittent electrical faults are why mechanics go bald...two handfuls at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    I had a similar experience when trying to diagnose what in the ever - loving heck was wrong with my towing controller, even replaced the towing controller.

    Long story short, I had bought the (used) truck from an electrician. After tracing the wiring back from the receiver hitch - all factory - towards the front of the truck, I found buried some of those clamp-on-garbage splice connectors, and new wiring running off of the factory.

    After digging around the dash, I found the original factory connectors for the trailer-controller, plugged it in, and viola, it worked fine. For some reason I'll never understand, someone t-spliced the factory wiring, ran redundant "replacement" wires up to the exact same place, with the exact same connector.... and the factory wiring was fine. T-splice clamps are of course, about the worst electrical connection a person can make. So.. ]wtf. Can't image why someone would do that. Redneck trailer with left/right braking connections? It only came with a single controller, so it still mystifies me.
    Well, you know that plumbers have the worst pipes, and electricians have the worst wiring...... etc......
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    I had a similar experience when trying to diagnose what in the ever - loving heck was wrong with my towing controller, even replaced the towing controller.

    Long story short, I had bought the (used) truck from an electrician. After tracing the wiring back from the receiver hitch - all factory - towards the front of the truck, I found buried some of those clamp-on-garbage splice connectors, and new wiring running off of the factory.

    After digging around the dash, I found the original factory connectors for the trailer-controller, plugged it in, and viola, it worked fine. For some reason I'll never understand, someone t-spliced the factory wiring, ran redundant "replacement" wires up to the exact same place, with the exact same connector.... and the factory wiring was fine. T-splice clamps are of course, about the worst electrical connection a person can make. So.. ]wtf. Can't image why someone would do that. Redneck trailer with left/right braking connections? It only came with a single controller, so it still mystifies me.
    More than likely because most people don't know that the factory harness for trailer brake controllers are stuffed up in the dash. He probably just assumed he was an electrician and everything has to be wired!

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    Modern auto's are insane. It's amazing they ever work with all the mess of wires, sensors, computers, etc.

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