Does Colorado law dictate what dealers can charge for private sale transfers?

[kidicarus13]

CBI website

[rtr]

Can you give us the link?

[kidicarus13]

https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/cbi...armlegislation

[Great-Kazoo]

Tell a FFL you're not paying a penny more than $10 and see what they say.

[rtr]

So you believe the intent of the law and those who voted for it is that people pay no more than $10 for person to person transfers done through an FFL?

Yes, as it is written, it would restrict dealers from charging over $10 on top of the CBI seasonally-adjusted fee, which could be anywhere from $6.00 to $6,000 at the discretion of the CBI.
No, you cannot enforce it nor does anyone in CO enforce it.

The reason it is written into the legislation is so they can argue affordability. The reason they don't actually enforce it and never intend to - ever - is because there wouldn't be anyone left to do transfers, thus causing a constitutional crisis (state constitution + federal constitution) whereas people could not buy, sell, or transfer firearms, and the law would be shut down.

It exists merely for the state gov't to have it's cake and eat it too, and yes, it can, and does all the time.

So, like virtually any other American regulation, law, and otherwise, don't expect your government to operate and follow it's own rulebook. If you do, then I have a bridge to sell you to Alcatraz. If you're mad about being charged $25, or $45, go ahead and give a dealer some lip, it'll get you real far. Or, accept that your country is as f***ed as any other, and where some you need to set money aside to bribe officers, here has its own issues too. Shop around, find a dealer with the lowest rate that is acceptable to you.

[Irving]

I'm a bit torn on this issue. NO ONE is complaining about the state not really enforcing the mag law, even to the point that dealers openly sell 15+ mags. No one is complaining about not facing penalties for not updating your new address regarding a CCW on time. Should we be upset about which laws the state chooses to enforce, when we're directly benefiting from others that they don't choose to enforce?

[Great-Kazoo]

So you believe the intent of the law and those who voted for it is that people pay no more than $10 for person to person transfers done through an FFL?

The intent was to get a baseline for "reasonable fees" The reality (IMO) was to show CO was tough on guns, wanted to do something to show they were and have a means to justify their law. If they were showing (as FT mentioned) no FFL was doing transfers, they would have to admit a feel good law didn't work. But you're arguing for the sense of disagreeing with something a FFL chooses to do.

Your issue is with the FFL's, not other forum members.

[rtr]

"Your issue is with the FFL's, not other forum members."

Whoa buddy, I don't have an issue with anyone, apparently I didn't make it clear earlier, I'm not posting this thread because I'm upset about what is being charged. I am trying to understand what the statute requires of FFLs and if they are or are not meeting it. If indeed they are not living up to the statute I'm not complaining about it, I think its interesting that we have a law that isn't being enforced, but of course there are lots of laws like that. I also think its interesting that legislators and the governor approved something perhaps with the understanding that it would cost people $10, not something well over that. Again Mr. Kazoo I'm not posting this to pick a fight with anyone.

"I'm a bit torn on this issue. NO ONE is complaining about the state not really enforcing the mag law, even to the point that dealers openly sell 15+ mags. No one is complaining about not facing penalties for not updating your new address regarding a CCW on time. Should we be upset about which laws the state chooses to enforce, when we're directly benefiting from others that they don't choose to enforce?"

Fair question.

[def90]

So you believe the intent of the law and those who voted for it is that people pay no more than $10 for person to person transfers done through an FFL?

No.. the law as passed requires that background checks be performed on all private sales of firearms. The fee and the $ amount is for the background check itself. The law and the cbi did not create a system where a seller could perform their own background checks so you are required to go to an FFL to perform the transfer of ownership. You pay the state a controlled amount of $$ for the background check fee and then you pay the dealer for the service $$ of the transfer service.

[Eric P]

I'm a bit torn on this issue. NO ONE is complaining about the state not really enforcing the mag law, even to the point that dealers openly sell 15+ mags. No one is complaining about not facing penalties for not updating your new address regarding a CCW on time. Should we be upset about which laws the state chooses to enforce, when we're directly benefiting from others that they don't choose to enforce?

A law that is not enforced should be nullified.