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    Quote Originally Posted by SideShow Bob View Post
    That would be cruelty to animals,.
    I’m sure it is the same with propellers on drones. I remember back in the day with RC model airplanes, that the propellers would give you a mean cut if your hand or other body part got in the wrong place.
    I took a hit with my 15" nylon (glass reinforced) folding props and ended up with a decent cut. Had they not been folding, it would have been much worse. Carbon fiber props can quickly turn you into an amputee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyEgo View Post
    If they are flying within the constraints of FAA regulations and local ordinances, you have no legal recourse for whatever actions you choose to interfere with the drone in operation. 'You' being the generic 'you'. People may find themselves in a world of Federal hurt for downing a drone in an unsafe manner, in addition to any civil or criminal property damage statutes. It's just a fact. Your best bet is to talk to the individual, or see if they are violating the regs or local ordinances. You can look up your in-laws address on Airmap or Skyvector to see if the airspace is legal to fly in. Amongst other things, I am a licensed commercial drone operator.
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    I dunno. The language in the link Wolf posted seems pretty clear:

    [QUOTE]The air is generally a public highway and the airspace overhead is part of the public domain[ii]. But, if a landowner is to have full enjoyment of his/her land, s/he must have exclusive control of the immediate reaches of the enveloping atmosphere[iii]. Accordingly, a landowner is protected against intrusions in the airspace immediate and direct as to subtract from the owner’s full enjoyment of the property and to limit his/her exploitation of it[iv].[QUOTE]

    I would think that a drone buzzing around in the airspace immediately over my property would certainly “subtract from my full ownership of the property”. And if, as a landowner, if I am to “have exclusive control of the immediate reaches of the enveloping atmosphere”, I think I would be within my rights to, say, water my air with a powerful hose, as I see fit. Not saying I’d have any right to preclude a drone from flying over anyone else’s property, but directly over mine, and low enough to be a nuisance? I’d try asking politely, but only once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentonite View Post
    I dunno. The language in the link Wolf posted seems pretty clear:

    The air is generally a public highway and the airspace overhead is part of the public domain[ii]. But, if a landowner is to have full enjoyment of his/her land, s/he must have exclusive control of the immediate reaches of the enveloping atmosphere[iii]. Accordingly, a landowner is protected against intrusions in the airspace immediate and direct as to subtract from the owner?s full enjoyment of the property and to limit his/her exploitation of it.
    I would think that a drone buzzing around in the airspace immediately over my property would certainly ?subtract from my full ownership of the property?. And if, as a landowner, if I am to ?have exclusive control of the immediate reaches of the enveloping atmosphere?, I think I would be within my rights to, say, water my air with a powerful hose, as I see fit. Not saying I?d have any right to preclude a drone from flying over anyone else?s property, but directly over mine, and low enough to be a nuisance? I?d try asking politely, but only once.
    Would you use that same example to justify watering the street if you didn't like whom ever was in front of your house within 83' of your property line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Would you use that same example to justify watering the street if you didn't like whom ever was in front of your house within 83' of your property line?
    Not a valid comparison. The street is outside the boundary of the property lines. If you project the property lines vertically to a given height, the drone is violating that envelope.

    This conversation has not been directed towards drones flying over the streets, alleyways or other easements not specifically contained within the property line envelope.

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    I agree, but I think it might be a tough argument to make that something within X' feet is bothersome to you if there are other things like properties and public access within that envelope of the property line. I imagine that it's not something that'd ever go in front of a jury, and with just judges and lawyers it'd be pretty cut and dry.

    Ultimately, avoiding doing things that are likely to encourage legal action from your neighbors is the simplest solution.
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    I'll bite.

    There is a reasonable expectation that some one or thing could observe you on your property from the street or an adjacent property.

    Is it reasonable to say that this 'expectation' also applies to the immediate airspace within the same property line?

    Not even
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickNorris View Post
    I'll bite.

    There is a reasonable expectation that some one or thing could observe you on your property from the street or an adjacent property.

    Is it reasonable to say that this 'expectation' also applies to the immediate airspace within the same property line?

    Not even
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    I'd talk to the owner first. If that failed, then mention to local LE dept. The drone seems to hover over your property while in a swimsuit. You feel uncomfortable to the point the few times said drone has appeared you feel like it's stalking you, like a peeping tom. That's illegal no matter how the invasion of privacy is done.

    Laws or not pertaining to drones. There's a reasonable level of privacy for any home owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Would you use that same example to justify watering the street if you didn't like whom ever was in front of your house within 83' of your property line?
    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    Not a valid comparison. The street is outside the boundary of the property lines. If you project the property lines vertically to a given height, the drone is violating that envelope.

    This conversation has not been directed towards drones flying over the streets, alleyways or other easements not specifically contained within the property line envelope.

    Apples do not equal Oranges.

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    yeah, what crays said. There is established precedence that the airspace, at least to some degree, is that of the property owner. Otherwise, I could extend a 2nd floor balcony over the back yard of my next door neighbor. I won’t water the street to keep folks off public property, but I will water my own lawn when I want (there was a funny video posted on this site of someone doing just that, using a motion-activated sprayer, to keep trespassing pissers at bay).

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