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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    I'm not really concerned with anybody's tax return, I'm working and not being paid until this shit show is settled.
    But you will get paid when it's over, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    But you will get paid when it's over, right?
    Yes, but I've already had a couple creditors tell me the shutdown is not their problem, which it isn't, but it shouldn't be my problem either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    Yes, but I've already had a couple creditors tell me the shutdown is not their problem, which it isn't, but it shouldn't be my problem either.
    I hear ya. I have a neighbor that is on furlough. I don't know if they're going to end up being tight, but I've offered them any help I can provide if it comes to that. I hope neighbors all over the country will do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    I hear ya. I have a neighbor that is on furlough. I don't know if they're going to end up being tight, but I've offered them any help I can provide if it comes to that. I hope neighbors all over the country will do the same.
    That's awesome of you to offer, contrary to public opinion, government workers (at least the majority) aren't getting rich off of their salaries, sure the retirement is good, and the benefits are decent, but salaries aren't making people rich. I get it, everyone should have a rainy day fund, but depending on where you live, paycheck to paycheck is a harsh reality.

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    And that's my point of the post. The media made it painfully obvious in 2013 how many fed employees were getting hurt by the shutdown then. There's has been virtually zero mention of it this time anywhere, even though it IS affecting people. The American public has basically been ignoring the shutdown this time around.

    But they found a way to make it hurt everyone. The shutdown was getting no traction so today the media made sure everyone in the country would hear that the shutdown will hit their pocketbooks too. Been ignored for weeks and in one day, it became everyone's problem.

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    Do people not realize how much more the bloated Federal government hurts their wallets by even existing in its present form, than a measly shutdown and a few thousand dollars in a tax return not coming (and who gets a tax return in January anyway?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    Do people not realize how much more the bloated Federal government hurts their wallets by even existing in its present form, than a measly shutdown and a few thousand dollars in a tax return not coming (and who gets a tax return in January anyway?).
    No they don't. People love getting tax returns. They forget it's their money.

    "Smartest" thing the gov did to collect income taxes is make employers take it out of citizens' checks. They never notice it's gone. If the IRS went door-to-door to collect, there would have been a revolt long ago.

    Second "smartest" idea was to then give "refunds" because citizens treat it like free government money. They love refunds!!! It's almost like people enjoy the fact the government took too much of their money in the first place.

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    People who get refunds must be proud that they help fund all of the governments stupidity throughout the year by giving them an interest free loan. It baffles me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    I'm not really concerned with anybody's tax return, I'm working and not being paid until this shit show is settled.

    ETA: I shouldn't be insensitive to people needing/wanting their returns, it's just hard to sympathize while I continue to report to work, uncertain of when I'll be compensated.
    But consider the boost for our egos every time our employer tells us we are essential.

    I have lost count at the number of shut downs. Most have only been a day or three, but the inter-office drama and emails that lead up to the shut downs that didn't happen are just as bad. We have always been paid when the shut down is resolved. There has never been any guarantee, however Congress knows that it would be bad if they stiffed hundreds of thousands of employees, most of whom worked through the shut down. My wife and I always have a brief conversation about how nice it would be to non-essential. That way, I could stay home AND get paid for that time when the shut down is resolved. Being essential just means that your pay is delayed.

    All part of the joy of public service.

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    I guess I'm a moron. If there's a "shutdown", why are people working and not getting paid? Did someone change the definition of shut down?

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