The Wall. The Shutdown

[Great-Kazoo]

I think that's actually a great idea (except freezing the accounts of family members part), but unfortunately has about as much of a chance of happening as eliminating the IRS.

You realize the IRS is the only non government entity with far reaching powers. They have the ability to seize assets w/out a court order or due process.

[Irving]

Yep

[clodhopper]

Physical barriers are only one aspect of border security, a small, but important, aspect. There are many parts of the border where a wall makes no sense, and a few areas where it makes good sense(and is already in place). The big issue I see is that just like in a thousand other examples, politicians with zero expertise are trying to apply blanket solutions to complex problems where they are not applicable.

I would say the border patrol should be the primary voice in what is needed and what would work. Problem is, although a million conflicting media reports all say they know what the border agents want, I cannot find a single report with a plan that was prepared by the border authority. A million pages of hearsay and confusion. Anyone have a link to something coherent?

[CS1983]

https://myfedbenefitshelp.com/assist...ment-shutdown/

Map of places folks can get assistance.

[CS1983]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...n-temporarily/

[Great-Kazoo]

He could have cut & pasted this speech before Christmas & accepted this same exact resolution back on Dec 22. Instead, he rejected it in 2018, shut the government down & 35 days later in 2019 signed it anyway. Brilliant, bloody brilliant sir!!

Yes he could have. The D's could have also given the same funding they approved under Obamas watch, and agreed was necessary. When he asked for it. But NOOOOOOO it's become a kids game of who's ball and bat it is.

They're all losers and should be recalled, or thrown out of office. You pull this shit in the private sector, you're out of work.

[BushMasterBoy]

Does this mean the VA will quit playing politics with the medications I need? Is America just one big incompetent scam? Let the internet wars begin!

[Great-Kazoo]

Does this mean the VA will quit playing politics with the medications I need? Is America just one big incompetent scam? Let the internet wars begin!

VA down here is running full time. The line this morning for meds, was like waiting for Led Zepplin reunion tickets. Not saying who is or isn't getting their script filled.

[hollohas]

President caved. He says he'll use executive authority to do it they don't fund it next month.

He said that for the last month too.

So why didn't he just use executive authority already? Why drag out the fight? If it's an emergency, get it done now. He needs to stop the threats and just finish the fight. I can't believe he went through the last month and came out with NOTHING but the same old threat..

I'ma do it.

No really guys, I'ma do it!

Seriously, don't test me, I'ma do it!!!

Ok, you can have what you want now, but if you don't give me what I want later, I'm seriously gonna do it this time. I'm serious guys, don't test me.

They already tested him and he failed. What a shame so many people went without pay for NOTHING.

[waffles]

President caved. He says he'll use executive authority to do it they don't fund it next month.

He said that for the last month too.

So why didn't he just use executive authority already? Why drag out the fight? If it's an emergency, get it done now. He needs to stop the threats and just finish the fight. I can't believe he went through the last month and came out with NOTHING but the same old threat..

I'ma do it.

No really guys, I'ma do it!

Seriously, don't test me, I'ma do it!!!

Ok, you can have what you want now, but if you don't give me what I want later, I'm seriously gonna do it this time. I'm serious guys, don't test me.

They already tested him and he failed. What a shame so many people went without pay for NOTHING.

I'll preface this by saying I'm not a Trump fan, nor am I a wall fan.

I think the reason this came up now, instead of during a time when the GOP controlled the house and senate, is that Trump knows this is a huge issue for his base and does him more good as an issue than as a completed promise. I'd also mention how many people are blaming this shutdown on the democrats, despite Trump himself going on TV and claiming responsibility preemptively for any shutdown that happened. I really don't think he will suffer any blowback for the suffering of employees going without pay, he was able to get people in a frenzy again about the wall (on both sides), and he can go back to his base showing how hard he fought for his wall, but those mean old democrats wouldn't back down. I would be very curious to see whether or not he actually tries the emergency angle, and if so whether it goes through or is quickly tied up in the courts.