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    It's not titled hot tub, it says bathtub. The hot tub is very clear which one it is, just a few feet away. We watched a guy climb down on his shoes and almost not make it back out.

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    Really I don't think any of them have official names. I have seen different names for all of them. First time I have seen one called a bath tub though.

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    My friends were calling Devil's hot tub Mickey's. Then when we got to Mickey's, there is a plaque bolted to the wall.

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    How familiar are you guys with Cold Air Intake/Short Ram Air Intake for cars? I've always been a 4x4 guy and never felt the need for this type of setup on my rigs, plus they are no Bueno for water crossing and what not. I've got an itch to tinker with the Accord, and was thinking about adding one. There is an AFE offering that claims 13hp and 16ft/lbs, but I'm highly suspect of those numbers. Basically the 2.4 I4 that is in the car is factory rated at 190hp, and I just want to try and squeeze 200+. Considering a CAI and downpipe with pre cat delete, along with a possible high flow cat (depending on what it would do for my emissions down here). I think with intake and exhaust I could be at or over the 200hp (not WHP, but HP). If I want to go even further, Ktuner makes a touch screen "end user" setup for the car, but we'll see about that. I would love to do forced induction, but there haven't been many turbos done on my particular motor, and it's likely more money than I want to drop for the DD.
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    I think you're on the right path doing intake and exhaust stove you realistically need both sides. I had intakes on a few cars when I was growing up, but never could afford to mod the exhaust. I've been out of it for so long that I couldn't give you much of an opinion on dollars spent vs butt dyno though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I think you're on the right path doing intake and exhaust stove you realistically need both sides. I had intakes on a few cars when I was growing up, but never could afford to mod the exhaust. I've been out of it for so long that I couldn't give you much of an opinion on dollars spent vs butt dyno though.
    Thanks for the insight, I figure with the way cars are so restricted these days, it?s probably best bang for the buck.


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    It seemed like back in the '90's you'd do an exhaust on a US truck or sports car and get a lot of gains, but doing the same thing on an import wouldn't get you nearly as much because they were better tuned. I think with the option of a computer tune, you'd get more than back in the day, especially when coupled with opening up the breathing.

    I opened the exhaust on my Trooper from 2" to 2.5" and I can't really tell a difference. Then again, I didn't do anything on the intake, and the gearing is so high now that I'd be hard pressed to tell anyway. Not to mention I added at least 80lbs in sliders as well. Not a great example anyway.

    I had a cold air intake on a '96 Integra GSR back in the day and I felt like it would more happily get to redline, but I don't remember it really being anything very significant. I'd say if you can afford it and it's not something ridiculous like $500+, then do it anyway.

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    Total speculation on my part here but I bet even upgrading your intake and exhaust won?t gain you much unless you do some custom mapping/tuning to account for your bolt ons. The stock ECM program is still going to be controlling for a lean (14:1?) burn. Might even have to install some wide band O2 sensors before the tune as the narrow band O2 sensors probably aren?t going to work properly once you start trying to dial in a more stoichiometric air fuel ratio.

    Your intake/exhaust combo will probably make some decent noise and you may think it feels faster but the reality is you won?t really gain much if you were to actually run it on a dyno.

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    Depending on the vehicle, you may see no gains at all. My truck came with an intake, but doing research, they're no better at flowing air than the stock one.

    A tune, on the other hand....

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