General vehicle thread

[Great-Kazoo]

I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean.

[ChickNorris]

It means my truck will go 16-20 miles on one gallon of gas and a Tesla will go zero miles on a gallon gas.

Hehehe

[Jer]

Real question here Jer. I am catching up in this thread this morning, and something you said raised my eyebrows.

How does one "abuse supercharging"? Keep in mind that everything I know about ev's, I've learned from this forum.

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I believe that was in context to someone asking about full stalls. What I meant by "abusing" them is that once your batteries are topped off you no longer have a need to be there. Leaving your car for prolonged periods knowing that your battery is charged is abusive in the eyes of the community. In other words and in maybe a better example, there are Supercharger in metro areas where people don't charge their EVs at home at all. Instead, they drive into work in the morning, park at a nearby Supercharger and then go to work for 8-10 hours. Their battery is topped off in well under and hour and yet the car remains in the stall plugged in for another 8 hours.. planned. Part of this falls on Tesla for putting them in metro areas but it really should come down to people thinking of others. It's similar to a busy gas station when you're waiting in line and someone is piddle farting around with their car while others wait. Annoying enough but now imagine the guy goes to work and leaves the car there. This is why Tesla 1) is starting to charge to try to curb people from taking advantage of "free" juice when that's not what it was intended for and 2) enacted a policy by which if you remain in a stall well beyond your vehicle being charged you can be assessed a fee. Tesla is on the record saying that they would rather not do this but it was necessary to enforce some good behavior on a select few who seemed to be raised by a pack of wolves.

[Jer]

It means my truck will go 16-20 miles on one gallon of gas and a Tesla will go zero miles on a gallon gas.

He's not wrong.

[Rucker61]

It means my truck will go 16-20 miles on one gallon of gas and a Tesla will go zero miles on a gallon gas.

[crays]

I believe that was in context to someone asking about full stalls. What I meant by "abusing" them is that once your batteries are topped off you no longer have a need to be there. Leaving your car for prolonged periods knowing that your battery is charged is abusive in the eyes of the community. In other words and in maybe a better example, there are Supercharger in metro areas where people don't charge their EVs at home at all. Instead, they drive into work in the morning, park at a nearby Supercharger and then go to work for 8-10 hours. Their battery is topped off in well under and hour and yet the car remains in the stall plugged in for another 8 hours.. planned. Part of this falls on Tesla for putting them in metro areas but it really should come down to people thinking of others. It's similar to a busy gas station when you're waiting in line and someone is piddle farting around with their car while others wait. Annoying enough but now imagine the guy goes to work and leaves the car there. This is why Tesla 1) is starting to charge to try to curb people from taking advantage of "free" juice when that's not what it was intended for and 2) enacted a policy by which if you remain in a stall well beyond your vehicle being charged you can be assessed a fee. Tesla is on the record saying that they would rather not do this but it was necessary to enforce some good behavior on a select few who seemed to be raised by a pack of wolves.

Thanks. That's one of the scenarios I had assumed.

Go figure. Humans acting as humans do, in general.

I'm certain we have all experienced very annoying delays at the gas pumps, as you stated. Why would Tesla assume it would be any different at charging stations?

So I guess Tesla doesn't understand human nature, and/or assumed that only the "best and brightest" would purchase their goods and the unwashed masses would have no interest.

Another good idea/intention quashed by the free market system.

Or was it the endgame to get even more early adopters on board to purchase, allowing them to activate a revenue stream based on the actions of the "feral minority". Which is basically what they are on record as saying, according to your post.



I will edit to add, are there any provisions in place to ticket/tow the lingerers? Probably a local ordinance issue, but seems like a no-brainer. Unless the charging stall are actually privately owned?

I guess I'm just skeptical about a lot of things.

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[Great-Kazoo]

Thanks. That's one of the scenarios I had assumed.

Go figure. Humans acting as humans do, in general.

I'm certain we have all experienced very annoying delays at the gas pumps, as you stated. Why would Tesla assume it would be any different at charging stations?

So I guess Tesla doesn't understand human nature, and/or assumed that only the "best and brightest" would purchase their goods and the unwashed masses would have no interest.

Another good idea/intention quashed by the free market system.

Or was it the endgame to get even more early adopters on board to purchase, allowing them to activate a revenue stream based on the actions of the "feral minority". Which is basically what they are on record as saying, according to your post.



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[ray1970]

Of course zero gallons of gas will get me exactly zero miles down the road where zero gallons of gas will get the Tesla what? 200 miles or so?

[BushMasterBoy]

Jut plug the Tesla into a Dodge Charger! doh

[Great-Kazoo]

Jut plug the Tesla into a Dodge Charger! doh

BAM!