General vehicle thread

[Great-Kazoo]

I believe that was in context to someone asking about full stalls. What I meant by "abusing" them is that once your batteries are topped off you no longer have a need to be there. Leaving your car for prolonged periods knowing that your battery is charged is abusive in the eyes of the community. In other words and in maybe a better example, there are Supercharger in metro areas where people don't charge their EVs at home at all. Instead, they drive into work in the morning, park at a nearby Supercharger and then go to work for 8-10 hours. Their battery is topped off in well under and hour and yet the car remains in the stall plugged in for another 8 hours.. planned. Part of this falls on Tesla for putting them in metro areas but it really should come down to people thinking of others. It's similar to a busy gas station when you're waiting in line and someone is piddle farting around with their car while others wait. Annoying enough but now imagine the guy goes to work and leaves the car there. This is why Tesla 1) is starting to charge to try to curb people from taking advantage of "free" juice when that's not what it was intended for and 2) enacted a policy by which if you remain in a stall well beyond your vehicle being charged you can be assessed a fee. Tesla is on the record saying that they would rather not do this but it was necessary to enforce some good behavior on a select few who seemed to be raised by a pack of wolves.

Surprised you haven't invested in wind power

[Martinjmpr]

I'll just leave this here:

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Have Macintosh's Witnesses been replaced by the Disciples of the Book of Elon?

[CS1983]

All Hail Linus

[Jer]

Thanks. That's one of the scenarios I had assumed.

Go figure. Humans acting as humans do, in general.

I'm certain we have all experienced very annoying delays at the gas pumps, as you stated. Why would Tesla assume it would be any different at charging stations?

So I guess Tesla doesn't understand human nature, and/or assumed that only the "best and brightest" would purchase their goods and the unwashed masses would have no interest.

Another good idea/intention quashed by the free market system.

Or was it the endgame to get even more early adopters on board to purchase, allowing them to activate a revenue stream based on the actions of the "feral minority". Which is basically what they are on record as saying, according to your post.



I will edit to add, are there any provisions in place to ticket/tow the lingerers? Probably a local ordinance issue, but seems like a no-brainer. Unless the charging stall are actually privately owned?

I guess I'm just skeptical about a lot of things.

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Certainly not just the best and brightest since I own a couple.

Most all are on private property (I think they have to be?) so it would be up to the owner to report them for trespassing if they really wanted to. Since Tesla can track everything about charging it's just easier to impose a fine for a car that sits beyond whatever time limit beyond charging they determine is excessive. There are laws regarding non-EVs parking in spots designated EV charging spaces but this is state to state and I think less than a dozen currently have something on the books in regards to this.

[Jer]

Of course zero gallons of gas will get me exactly zero miles down the road where zero gallons of gas will get the Tesla what? 200 miles or so?

The math also checks out.

[Jer]

Jut plug the Tesla into a Dodge Charger! doh

[BushMasterBoy]

On a serious note, I just bought a Blue Driver OBD code reader. Does some live reading stuff, that my other OBD code reader can't. Hopefully it will save me some grief in the future. Just download the free app on your smart phone and it is ready.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/review...driver-review/

[00tec]

On a serious note, I just bought a Blue Driver OBD code reader. Does some live reading stuff, that my other OBD code reader can't. Hopefully it will save me some grief in the future. Just download the free app on your smart phone and it is ready.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/review...driver-review/

I use a $14 OBDII dongle and Forscan (but I only really deal with fords). A MS-CAN switch would be nice though.

[Irving]

You'd think tow truck drivers would be happy to make money towing ICE vehicles parked at charging stations.

[BushMasterBoy]

They will probably equip tow trucks with generators now. That way they can charge for charges. I just created a new business. effing jenius...