General vehicle thread

[Gman]

Yeah. Hence the partnerships between Ford/Mazda, Chrysler/Mitsubishi, and GM/Isuzu.

Don't forget the GM/Toyota partnership (their manufacturing facility is now owned by Tesla). Duramax is a joint venture between GM and Isuzu.

I won't be surprised to see more coop-etition between brands going forward.

[MrPrena]

Last night dinner with someone was talking about Rivian for about 30 minutes. Lots of listening and good info.

[ray1970]

Maybe Tesla and Rivian could have some sort of big truck showdown between their vehicles. Maybe hook them to absurdly large trailers and race up the side of a mountain.

[MrPrena]

I think rivian already have 700m worth of preorder from amazon. Whereas tesla is just busy with publicity like Elon driving a prototype truck on the road, or having tug of war with ford truck types of articles.

[eddiememphis]

...all the profits still go to Japan, Korea, etc.

... However, my next and last new vehicle purchase will be a RAM built in the US.

Owned by FCA with the head office in Holland and the financial office in London. And getting ready to merge with Peugeot.

[Irving]

I don't understand the concern about where profits go.

[ray1970]

It has something to do with that whole "merica" thing.

[Gman]

Owned by FCA with the head office in Holland and the financial office in London. And getting ready to merge with Peugeot.

In February 2019, Fiat Chrysler announced plans to invest $4.5 billion in manufacturing in Michigan.[46] The plant is estimated to create nearly 6,500 jobs. Plans include $1.6 billion to build a Jeep factory in Detroit.[47]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Chrysler_Automobiles

[brutal]

Owned by FCA with the head office in Holland and the financial office in London. And getting ready to merge with Peugeot.

I don't understand the concern about where profits go.

It has something to do with that whole "merica" thing.

In February 2019, Fiat Chrysler announced plans to invest $4.5 billion in manufacturing in Michigan.[46] The plant is estimated to create nearly 6,500 jobs. Plans include $1.6 billion to build a Jeep factory in Detroit.[47]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Chrysler_Automobiles

Just stating the facts. I've got no heartburn over where profits go. As I previously stated, I'm somewhat of a globalist in that regard and so is my 401k. That said, I'd rather see the jerbs in 'Merica than elsewhere.

[Jer]

Tesla is an American company that employs Americans to build innovative cars right here in America. Just saying.

In my normal conversations it amazes me how many people think Tesla is some foreign conglomerate. I guess we're programmed to think that these days since most car companies either are, outsource all of their labor or both. You get foreign companies building some of their cars here so they can market the "built in America" part. You can either get the company profits to be American or the jobs to be American with company profits going overseas but you can't get both these days. Well, unless it's Tesla that is.

This is what cracks me up about how many people want to see Tesla fail, root against them and actively short the stock. Even if it's not the right car for you and your needs you should still want to see an American company that is actually innovating and shaking things up succeed. Hell, look at the quickening transition to EVs and the rapid uptick of tech in cars... we're already winners as consumers for the amount of fear Tesla has struck in the companies who've been content with "business as usual" for decades.