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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    Tie rods. Lol. Where?s the rack and pinion?
    The Amigo has rack and pinion, but the Troopers got tie rods, and apparently weak ones at that. The upgraded version is ends from an F-150 and the center shaft is from something like a Chrysler Sebring.

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    ^
    Any cool updates on Trooper?

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    Nothing substantial yet. A lot of this stuff is maintenance with upgrades. Started on ball joints, tie rods, and axles last night. I have lift springs for the back, but changed my mind on what I bought so I need to return and get something else. Clutch is here waiting to be installed, and low range gears and some shocks are in transit. The Isuzu transfer case is small and is only 2.07:1. The crawl gears are only 3:1 (Toyotas can fit 4:1 in their case) but the difference should be significant. I've purchased the steel for sliders, but want all the parts installed before I start doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    The upgraded version is ends from an F-150 and the center shaft is from something like a Chrysler Sebring.
    If you think about it, it?s sort of sad when Chrysler Sebring parts are an upgrade for your vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    If you think about it, it?s sort of sad when Chrysler Sebring parts are an upgrade for your vehicle.
    No offense intended to Irving, but that ^^^ made me chuckle out loud.
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    That's the FIRST thing that came to mind. Second was, why does the Sebring need such a large tie rod shaft? Probably shared parts between vehicles. Or the need for stronger frame on a convertible, combined with the driving of the kind of person who would actually buy a convertible (and a Sebring to boot!) in the first place. Who knows?

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    Irv, what are your thought so far on Moog problem solver parts? I need to work on the suburbsn front end but I am in analysis paralysis hell. Moog vs ACDelco Pro, vs OE ACDelco parts.
    Moog should be better but some folks said they are overly stiff and the steering sucks for the first 15k. Not thrilled with ACD Pro execution on some parts but found some discussion how they are far superior. The OE parts, well they lasted 90k miles, not sure if that is as good as it gets on the suburban, or Moog/pro would do better.

    Anyway, the whole front of the truck is coming apart for changes and just going with new a arms with parts installed. Just got to decide which parts....

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    A question on raising the truck front end. The suburban has the front a bit lower than the back. Since I am changing the fronts I thought about buying the raised swaybar keys and adjusting the front up by an inch. Anyone got experiance with this? Good/bad?

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    I don't have a ton of experience with how long replacement parts last with respect to suspension. I'm a big fan of OEM for things like electronics and water pumps. I did all this same suspension stuff on my Amigo and it's been something like 14k and everything seems fine. Moog just seems to be what people recommend. I like that they have Zerg fittings and that seems to be a selling point, plus I don't feel they are overly expensive. Everything I'm replacing on Trooper is completely shot, so even factory parts would make a world of difference. Moog is nice that they have a big catalog of parts to mix and match and make upgrades if you can, which is exactly what that tie rod is.

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    Is there Suburban a torsion bar front end? That's what all the Isuzus are.

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