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    Quote Originally Posted by cysoto View Post
    Because both Matthew and I were treated with a HIGH degree of disrespect by the CRC BOD and neither of us are willing to run or endorse events at this range.
    That sucks Cy. I have known and shot with you both for close to 20 years. You both are top shelf guys in anyones book.
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    APPENDIX C2 – Chronograph
    Match Chronograph and Equipment Set-up

    Are chronograph stations going to be set up to verify Minor/Major rifle powerfactor?

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    This stinks big time. Sorry Cy.
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    I really enjoyed the Practical rifle match, and am very disappointed to hear that Cy and Matt were mistreated.

    The new match rules appear to be in a format less fun and less practical than the previous match. The format of the change in administration guarantees it.

    Bigger thought: Between this and the CRC BOD?s catering to regressive range use policies, I?m wondering what we need to do in order to advance the sport and the club. I?m willing to keep my membership for the next couple years to identify and improve areas of improvement on the BOD. Offhand, I know at least two dozen guys who feel the same way.

    Good news: I think meeting attendance will be up.
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    What was the reason for the change? As far as I can tell, things were going great and everyone was happy. Matthew and Cy did a great job running the match. What happened to precipitate this?

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    The reason seems to be nothing short of Stuffing USPSA fees down the throat of shooters who had participated in a fun match, to appease a BOD that at once "promotes competition shooting", and yet is desperately out of touch with the current state of competition.
    And most importantly, the appeal for such changes must have come from an office of such intent as to gather influence and control for personal gain in some form.
    The energy it took to drum up a ferver in the Elderly BOD to demand a change must have been nearly as much labor as the suggested changes, which so far as i can tell were desired by no one involved in the match, and based on no substantiated problem with the match.

    The continued alienation of shooters through bureaucratic ligation will eventually be the down fall of our outdoor membership ranges, as it is the competitors who care about the range, the state of the facilities, and the sport enough to continue to fund it.
    When the senior most members who some are desperate to appease step down from the board, or simply can no longer afford membership dues, the financial strain may cripple such clubs.
    For it is not just paying members that are needed, but responsible and enthusiastic shooters, who encourage both passion and safety in enjoyment of the sport, to make sure the range is safe and successful.

    To believe that a single person who has the free time to inflict their influence can commandeer control of what is deemed "safe", and thus constrain reasonable practice for, and implementation of competition on a facility "designed to promote competition shooting" is sickening.
    That such control is done for profit on a paid membership range is abusive.
    And that the shooting credentials of the person executing this manufactured office are as laughable as they are, is simply insulting.

    It is my sincere hope that the insidious little bureaucrat behind these unfortunate changes is reading this, and shrinking a bit. I hope that said person knows that their private endeavor threatens not just a competition, or a club, but the solvency of the shooting sports that has long ridden on the fellowship of shooters.
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    What's with Colorado ranges shitting all over the most popular matches recently?
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    You guys may want to look at what happened at the Whittington Center and their BOD recently. It might be a good idea to start a campaign to correct what you can. I think the loud few are making decisions for the quiet many. It's your club too. Show the BOD and others how out of touch the are. Show the usurper(s) that they are not what is wanted, and do not speak for the shooting sports community.

    I wise man told me once that our matches are not considered a gentleman's game. Show them they are wrong. Don't roll over for these assholes.

    Good luck gentlemen. Give em hell.
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    I tend to boycott matches by just not attending. If enough people do the same and the turnout for the match is so low that they eventually just quit having them then I win. Conversely, if a match is popular and attendance is high it will likely thrive and grow.

    I imagine if a club is putting on matches nobody wants then eventually they won't be putting on the matches. Also, if popular matches are pushed out of a club or discontinued for whatever reason, those matches will likely resurface elsewhere taking their enthusiastic shooters with them to greener pastures.

    Eventually, everything will sort itself out.

    The worst thing is if shooters continue to shoot poorly run, half ass matches because they feel that is their only option. People will continue to show up and the matches will carry on as they are and nothing will change.

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    Would probably help to join the clubs, but who wants to join a club if they are going to look down on you for the very reason you joined?
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