Interesting Read From Matthew Bracken and American Partisan

[Irving]

Yes, that's a perfect venue. Maybe I should read some of his other stuff. This article is just a play by play from a propaganda handbook with an exciting underdog element to rile up folks who think that one day in the distant future they'll get to save the day with their rifles. In the mean time making zero effort to head such a conflict off at the pass. Just wait till the wound festers bad enough to cut off the arm.

[68Charger]

Yes, that's a perfect venue. Maybe I should read some of his other stuff. This article is just a play by play from a propaganda handbook with an exciting underdog element to rile up folks who think that one day in the distant future they'll get to save the day with their rifles. In the mean time making zero effort to head such a conflict off at the pass. Just wait till the wound festers bad enough to cut off the arm.

well, why haven't you fixed it yet?

[Irving]

I suspect that every person feels like they have no control over the situation and is just bracing for impact. It's important to continue to engage with those whom you disagree with. Some people decide that it's all too much and they'll just disengage and sit at home and load up mags until they can start making their point of view known with a rifle. That's not the kind of coward I want to be, so I'll go ahead and call bullshit on things when I see it.

The reason this piece seems interesting is because it's written by an author. It's a work of fiction with a controlled narrative and a happy ending presented as a study or something otherwise factual.

[Skip]

I think it's more complicated than that.

I think the Bracken piece is thought provoking in that it exposes a plan to replace the American people. And that replacement plan is only delineated by usefulness to the TheParty. It won't spare people based on race, gender, religious belief, or sexual orientation. We've all witnessed the real world examples of the protected class member who dared to speak against TheParty, or even just asked good questions about the trajectory of Liberalism (there is no place for moderates).

Example in today's news: Howard Shultz. But that's a side track.

Now add in gun control and you have a good view of the coming nastiness. Monopoly on violence + desire to eliminate "bad, irredeemable" people = ???

But we only wanted social and economic justice, gay marriage, and safe abortions for non-binary women.

Yeah, that's never what they wanted.

[Irving]

I would say that the way most people won't jump into a civil war because they are too comfortable, most politicians aren't actively trying to sell the citizenry into socialist slavery. There will ALWAYS be bad people in politics trying to push insane ideas. Always and forever. Most times the rest of the people aren't interested.

[Skip]

I would say that the way most people won't jump into a civil war because they are too comfortable, most politicians aren't actively trying to sell the citizenry into socialist slavery. There will ALWAYS be bad people in politics trying to push insane ideas. Always and forever. Most times the rest of the people aren't interested.

I agree with you on that point. Most people won't be in a civil war but that won't preserve their comfort or lives.

Most people don't decide the outcome of civil wars/revolutions either. They are decided by a very small percent of the population and that includes the political class being a minority. This is why the Left wants to maintain the perception of plurality and quickly culls its own who don't uphold consensus.

Politicians end up being useful idiots themselves. The GOP has been trying to make Liberalism sustainable my entire life and have failed to be a true opposition party. If they self-marginalize, they become a non-solution. Same with the courts. If the courts decide policy instead of black-letter-law they fail as a check against bad idea. If the policy is "good" the courts will affirm.

The consolidation of power (political, economic, and physical) in government becomes a force multiplier for politicians with bad ideas. This is precisely why the Constitution was written as a negative charter of liberty against gov. Our lives radically change based on who wins elections and this was never the idea nor it can it moral/ethical.

[Fentonite]

There is really nothing to discuss or debate with you. You've already established your point and made it clear. I don't care what you think nor do I care what your followers think or would like to believe. His opinion carries far more credibility than yours does and likely ever will from my perspective. It's that simple.

Wait... Irving has followers?!?

ETA: I guess I do like his fresh eggs a lot.

[68Charger]

I suspect that every person feels like they have no control over the situation and is just bracing for impact. It's important to continue to engage with those whom you disagree with. Some people decide that it's all too much and they'll just disengage and sit at home and load up mags until they can start making their point of view known with a rifle. That's not the kind of coward I want to be, so I'll go ahead and call bullshit on things when I see it.

The reason this piece seems interesting is because it's written by an author. It's a work of fiction with a controlled narrative and a happy ending presented as a study or something otherwise factual.

And I resent the stereotype that you think we're all just loading up mags waiting... but I'm also realistic that alone I lack the power to change what has a lot of money and power behind it (politics)... I'm not waiting for it to happen, but I also have no delusions of grandeur that I can stop it as an ordinary citizen.

I would say that the way most people won't jump into a civil war because they are too comfortable, most politicians aren't actively trying to sell the citizenry into socialist slavery. There will ALWAYS be bad people in politics trying to push insane ideas. Always and forever. Most times the rest of the people aren't interested.

I don't think you read very far before you made up your mind.... or at least you didn't keep an open mind. There are cases where there are riots on the streets, and if it gets bad enough in Urban areas, then there could be those that plan to "bug out" trying to escape the mass violence. If enough people decide to do that that don't have plans and arrangements made, some criminal types could decide that home invasions in rural areas are a solution. IF there is enough breakdown of law enforcement, you could be on your own in defending your rural homestead. With enough of this being a problem, neighborhoods could band together to defend whole areas of countryside.... now we're not THAT far off from what he's talking about. Throw in some Gov't agency deciding that disarming everyone in the country (ala post Katrina) is a good idea, and you're there.

That's a LOT of IFs, but I also don't dismiss based on "it won't happen here"... it has happened in other places of the world. But it's also not like I'm in my storm shelter stacking ammo all day long.

[GeorgeandSugar]

Not to hard to understand the ?leftists? end game. Open borders: more voters and ?takers.? Restrict guns and dilute 2A: to curtail ?resistance.? Bankrupt country: call for drastic measures to fix(the problem they made). Control every aspect of your life: slavery to the authoritarians (political, Wall Street and Hollywood elites). They supposedly know what would be best for all of us: that is neither freedom or liberty.


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[Great-Kazoo]

I think it's more complicated than that.

Example in today's news: Howard Shultz. But that's a side track.


But we only wanted social and economic justice, gay marriage, and safe abortions for non-binary women.

Yeah, that's never what they wanted.

Good post on 2 points. The later being. At 1 time the push was fpro Equal, Not Special Rights. One can see how that Equal morphed (with careful planning & funding) Special Rights.

Not to hard to understand the ?leftists? end game.

Control every aspect of your life: slavery to the authoritarians (political, Wall Street and Hollywood elites). They supposedly know what would be best for all of us: that is neither freedom or liberty.


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See the highlight i did on Skips reply.

While OT it's a great example of leftist ideology ..
Howard is seriously giving a run for office. Yet the left has viciously attached him.
To the point Starbucks has issues "Talking Points" to all employees IF and When Confronted by those who take umbrage and or OUTRAGED he's about to splinter the D votes.


That's the leftist line of thought. Agree with Me or be attacked until you surrender.

Well i say
NIMBY