And this is how it ends...

[Scanker19]

Why? Why? Becuase several of those aren’t even related to voting other than they were included in a discussion about voting. I think people that put pineapple on pizza shouldn’t be allowed to vote. See I can do it too. The rest are at best opinion based and subjective, and at worst two steps away from saying women and blacks wouldn’t be able to vote becuase, reasons.....?

I mean that’s a list of people you don’t like, that you don’t want voting. And nothing more. I’m sure you’ll have your reason and justifications as to why you don’t want them to, but I can replace any of them with the words women, the blacks, Mexicans, people under 5foot, and Dallas cowboys fans, and the “argument” (and I’m really using that word loosely) would still quote hold up.

Let’s keep in mind these rights as we call them aren’t granted by the government, or trump or Hillary or JoeK. They are and inherent part of being a human, granted by god or whatever you believe in, and PROTECTED by the constitution from people who would wish to strip those away. The best part about rights is you don’t have to agree with them. You don’t have to like a meth head (which by the way is a status offense and that’s not a crime in America) voting, but you damn well better be glad he can. It could be you next on the voting chopping block.

[Joe_K]

Hey dood. I played the elitist card a few post before you He's under 30 and ready to restrict rights, raise voting age, along with gun restrictions. etc.

Under 30? Yes. I?m 29 1/2.

Restrict voting to people that would make good decisions? Yes.

Raise the voting age? Yes. In the 1700?s a 15 year old male was more than a Man than most 50 year olds today, still it was understood that until 21 you were probably not going to be fully mentally developed, have a stable home/family life, own property, or necessarily even care about the future. So yes, I?m in favor of raising the VOTING age BACK to 21. Kind of like how the people who started this grand experiment intended.

I have never, ever supported ANY restrictions of any persons right to purchase/possess a firearm for self defense. My views on firearm ownership depart most conservatives views. I want teenagers to be able to own machine guns.


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[Joe_K]

Why? Why? Becuase several of those aren?t even related to voting other than they were included in a discussion about voting. I think people that put pineapple on pizza shouldn?t be allowed to vote. See I can do it too. The rest are at best opinion based and subjective, and at worst two steps away from saying women and blacks wouldn?t be able to vote becuase, reasons.....?

I mean that?s a list of people you don?t like, that you don?t want voting. And nothing more. I?m sure you?ll have your reason and justifications as to why you don?t want them to, but I can replace any of them with the words women, the blacks, Mexicans, people under 5foot, and Dallas cowboys fans, and the ?argument? (and I?m really using that word loosely) would still quote hold up.

Let?s keep in mind these rights as we call them aren?t granted by the government, or trump or Hillary or JoeK. They are and inherent part of being a human, granted by god or whatever you believe in, and PROTECTED by the constitution from people who would wish to strip those away. The best part about rights is you don?t have to agree with them. You don?t have to like a meth head (which by the way is a status offense and that?s not a crime in America) voting, but you damn well better be glad he can. It could be you next on the voting chopping block.

Preventing drug addicted,mentally unstable, criminal dead beat Dad?s doesn?t really seem quite the same as preventing a Woman or a person of a slightly darker complexion than myself from voting.

I?m in favor of a Constitutional Republic, NOT a Democracy. What form of government are you in favor of? What we currently have? How?s that working out for us?

It was a Constitutional Amendment that allowed the right to vote for those under 21, it was/is not a God given birthright like the right to self defense. Why not just let Citizens of other countries vote in our nations elections? Why not 11 year olds? Felons? Committed mental patients?


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[Great-Kazoo]

Under 30? Yes. I?m 29 1/2.

Restrict voting to people that would make good decisions? Yes.

When you said 29 and 1/2 you sounded like my kid when she was |||| this old



Sounds EXACTLY like the RESIST crowd who feels HRC was robbed of her crown because 3 million more people voted for her. YET LOST the Electoral College

BUT, But..... i live on the east or west coast. We're more intellectual and educated than the deplorables of fly over country .
WE should be the ones making decisions the rest of the peons need to follow.



Define: Good Decisions.

I used a condom last date?

Made a full stop at a yield entrance ?

Signed a petition to allow only the smartest people to sign petitions ?

Oh yeah, spent more than $800 on an AR

[DDT951]

Preventing drug addicted,mentally unstable, criminal dead beat Dad?s doesn?t really seem quite the same as preventing a Woman or a person of a slightly darker complexion than myself from voting.

I?m in favor of a Constitutional Republic, NOT a Democracy. What form of government are you in favor of? What we currently have? How?s that working out for us?

It was a Constitutional Amendment that allowed the right to vote for those under 21, it was/is not a God given birthright like the right to self defense. Why not just let Citizens of other countries vote in our nations elections? Why not 11 year olds? Felons? Committed mental patients?


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Do you realize that the progressives say that anyone who owns or wants to own guns are mentally unstable and dangerous? There is a reason the use the term "gun nuts". Nuts being that they are mentally unstable.

[Scanker19]

Preventing drug addicted,mentally unstable, criminal dead beat Dad?s doesn?t really seem quite the same as preventing a Woman or a person of a slightly darker complexion than myself from voting.

But's through the modern lens. One of the reasons we didn't want slaves voting is how could a person of color make a good decision (using the lens of the past) It's just as arbitrary. Someone saying they shouldn't vote because...... Just because you're on drugs doesn't mean that you make all bad choice. Just because you don't raise kids doesn't mean you don't have a say in your civic process.

I?m in favor of a Constitutional Republic, NOT a Democracy. What form of government are you in favor of? What we currently have? How?s that working out for us?
I think it is working fine. Could it be honed up a bit sure. Make states have an electoral college type of system so you avoid the problem NM has now where 29 out of 33 counties don't want something but they're still getting it. Or what Colorado is doing in this thread. It works fine. Trump was elected and didn't win the popular vote right?

It was a Constitutional Amendment that allowed the right to vote for those under 21, it was/is not a God given birthright like the right to self defense. Why not just let Citizens of other countries vote in our nations elections? Why not 11 year olds? Felons? Committed mental patients?
Again amendments don't allow and damn thing, they protect it since it wasn't specifically enumerated in the constitution. The 2nd amendment doesn't allow a damn thing. It disallows the government from restricting that right.
Well the argument could be made that the constitution applies to the people of the united states. We the People and such not WE the citizens... But it's a dumb argument and should be citizens. I'm in favor of felons voting. Why not? Is their time not served? I think those in violation of laws have the most say in the making of those laws. Hell I'm in favor of restoring gun rights to most non-violent felons too. You were military right? So in NM right now, If i were military, and i just got back from deployment from defending the nation, I could not give my 20 year old battle buddy a beer and it not be a felony. Some felonies are stupid.
As much as it pains me to say, I do support mental patients voting. I mean just because they're liberal doesn't mean they shouldn't get to vote to right?


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Sent from my telegraph machine.....What hath god wrought.....?

[Bailey Guns]

After reading some of this crap I've changed my mind. There should be age restrictions on voting. Anyone who says "I'm xx 1/2" should be ineligible to vote.

[Great-Kazoo]

After reading some of this crap I've changed my mind. There should be age restrictions on voting. Anyone who says "I'm xx 1/2" should be ineligible to vote.

WE agree. Come on, did or did that not sound like someone's grandkid

I'm wondering if he's harboring some subliminal Cluster B traits

[Bailey Guns]

WE agree. Come on, did or did that not sound like someone's grandkid

I'll confess...I've said that before, too. When I was like 5....and 1/2.

[Joe_K]

For everyone?s peace of mind I?m going to bow out of this conversation. If that makes anyone feel that they won something than congratulations.

It?s 2019, and newsflash! Unpopular opinions remain unpopular. Have a good one gents.




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