And this is how it ends...

[TFOGGER]

With a direct democracy, basically Commiefornia and New England would dictate to the rest of the country, even worse than the current situation. States like Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, etc. would have even less voice than they do now. "Flyover country". What the Democrats don't realize is that this can cut both ways. Their party is currently on the ascendancy, but the tides could change. All that it would require is a major economic event or an attack by an outside actor on US soil while a democrat was in the White House to tip the scales the other way.

[Skip]

What the Democrats don't realize is that this can cut both ways.

They have 25-30M new voters to make sure that doesn't happen. California "motor voters" with no citizenship required to get a license. No one in CA is prosecuting illegals who vote. They aren't even looking into the ballot farms (dozens of voters registered at one apartment).

Look at the spread in the last few elections. Even ones the media declares "landslides" by EC counts are really only off by 2-5% with the popular vote. That's max ~6M people.

It's creating an outcome based on the nation without Federal oversight or standardization of voting regulations in the states. When CA certifies the popular vote they will say how many of their voters voted for the Democrat in the election. There is no limit to this number. CA currently has 55 electoral votes. They can fix the election however they'd like but can't tip the scales past their 55 electors.

I know the Founders were trying to fix the problem of disproportionate representation but they also limited the potential for election fraud with nation-wide popular elections.

[MED]

Not even close to true. The electoral college is the exact opposite of what you're saying.

What the electoral college does is allow states with low populations to actually have a voice. With a direct democracy, states with low populations would NEVER have their voice heard. Ever. They simply wouldn't count anymore. They would be neutralized WITHOUT the electoral college. The population centers would neutralize even more areas if we were to move to a direct democracy, not less.

And there are actually two states that split their electoral college votes proportionally between candidates based on actual votes.

This pretty much sums it up.

[BushMasterBoy]

Vote by computer. Use biometric authentication. Illegal voting is treason punishable by death. Execution live on Youtube. Way more fun than the 1880's.

What say ye?

[TFOGGER]

Vote by computer. Use biometric authentication. Illegal voting is treason punishable by death. Execution live on Youtube. Way more fun than the 1880's.

What say ye?

Great idea for ensuring the integrity of the vote(assuming the technical foundation of the biometrics is sound), but still promotes the tyranny of the mob. If we were to convert to a democracy rather than a representative republic, some threshold of "skin in the game" would be necessary to prevent people from voting themselves endless free shit at the expense of others, as such people are inclined to do. That is what brought an end to the Roman Empire, at least a couple hundred years before the Vandals and Visigoths...

[powerstroke79]

http://https://kdvr.com/2019/01/29/colorado-senate-passes-bill-to-essentially-eliminate-electoral-college/amp/

[OtterbatHellcat]

Execution live on Youtube.

Execution on live tv is no problem with me. I'd have it on, think of the advertising money opportunities.

Electoral college has a purpose as mentioned, but it's still messed up too. Instead of abolishing it altogether, come up with a better effing way.

[longrange2]

What’s that have to do with reloading? This is already being discussed in the general discussion forum. See “and this is how it ends” post

[OtterbatHellcat]

Dunno, man. The top of this page right now at this moment....SAYS "and this is how it ends".
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[Eric P]

Congress still makes laws, so it wont be presidential "dictatorship". Checks and balances.

Congress just needs to pull back power they ceded to the executive branch. All rule making should be ratified by Congress before having the force of law.