And this is how it ends...

[Joe_K]

So the uninformed & young who are without a stake & transient shouldn't vote...

Some of the Voting minimum standards I could support:
High School diploma or better
Ability to read/write
Be a citizen
Valid I.D.
Be 21 or older
Pass a Citizenship test
Tax payer
Gainfully employed
No convictions
Never committed to a mental institution
Pass a drug test
If a parent, be married to the mother/father and have a stable home life.







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[Joe_K]

Joe_K by chance are you male, over thirty & a property owner who pays more into the government than you take?

Im not in disagreement, just curious on the demographic.

Yes
No
Yes
Sometimes


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[TFOGGER]

Some of the Voting minimum standards I could support:
High School diploma or better-Yeah, probably
Ability to read/write In the English language
Be a citizen Yes
Valid I.D. Yes
Be 21 or olderResponsible adults of any age. Some would qualify at 16, others may never
Pass a Citizenship test Absolutely. It ain't that tough. One should know how our government works before being able to change it.
Tax payer Yes, skin in the game.
Gainfully employed Not so sure about this one
No convictions I am not in agreement. Once a sentence has been discharged, full rights should be restored.
Never committed to a mental institution Same as a conviction, if they're fit to be released back into society and meet the other criteria, why penalize them?
Pass a drug test Nope. Unless you mean ALL drugs, including SSRIs, prescription pain relievers, nicotine, caffeine, and alcohol. Voting while impaired should be prohibited, but if they meet the primary criteria, it's no business of the .gov what substances they choose to ingest.
If a parent, be married to the mother/father and have a stable home life. Nope. the .gov shouldn't be involved in regulating morality. Failure to provide for one's offspring is one thing, requiring marriage to vote is another entirely.







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[Zundfolge]

Some of the Voting minimum standards I could support:
High School diploma or better
Ability to read/write
Be a citizen
Valid I.D.
Be 21 or older
Pass a Citizenship test
Tax payer
Gainfully employed
No convictions
Never committed to a mental institution
Pass a drug test
If a parent, be married to the mother/father and have a stable home life.

Yeah, Democrats tried that already in the south to keep blacks from voting so all that has been declared unconstitutional now.

[Joe_K]

Yeah, Democrats tried that already in the south to keep blacks from voting so all that has been declared unconstitutional now.

Wouldn?t be the first time something declared unconstitutional was undeclared. I?m aware of what happened in the south both during slavery, ?reconstruction?, Jim Crow, and the Civil rights movement. I just think we may have gone a bit too far in opening up who gets a say.


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[Irving]

If we had ever closed the door to who could vote, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now as not a single one of us would be allowed to vote.

[Bailey Guns]

So, under Joe's criteria, a person who is physically disabled and can't work, even though they meet all the other criteria, would not be allowed to vote. And we're gonna put the .gov into the business or regulating a person's home/family life and tell us what is and isn't acceptable behavior.

There's a whole lot of disabled vets that wouldn't be able to vote if Joe was in charge. Isn't that ironic?

The reality is there's nothing wrong with the rules we have now. The problem is there are so many people who don't want to follow the rules.

[Joe_K]

So, under Joe's criteria, a person who is physically disabled and can't work, even though they meet all the other criteria, would not be allowed to vote. And we're gonna put the .gov into the business or regulating a person's home/family life and tell us what is and isn't acceptable behavior.

There's a whole lot of disabled vets that wouldn't be able to vote if Joe was in charge. Isn't that ironic?

The reality is there's nothing wrong with the rules we have now. The problem is there are so many people who don't want to follow the rules.

Like any system there would be gaps. The point was to limit decision making to people that are upstanding, productive citizens. With the points you?ve brought up it would also seem retirees/the elderly would be ineligible as well. I?d be willing to give the gainfully employed criteria up if I could get any 4-5 of the others enacted.

Do we want the unemployed, 20 year old Mom?s basement dwelling, mentally disturbed, meth addicted, in and out of jail bird, father of 3 children by 3 women deadbeat dad to vote?


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[Scanker19]

Well, sounds like it's a done deal. If the conservatives ever take back power I hope they run a take no prisoners policy.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...al-college?amp

The mental gymnastics they'll jump through to get the electors cast for the Dem IF a conservative wins the popular vote will be entertaining.

They won?t. Conservatives are pussies.

[Bailey Guns]

Frankly I'd rather just make a rule that says if you're a liberal/democrat/progressive/leftist/communist you can't vote and you can't run for office. That would be a lot easier.