Sex Ed Bill HB19-1032

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HB19-1032 passed committee last night. If you're not paying attention, you should be.

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ve-sex-ed-bill

Lontine said the bill is about wellness for youth, and teaching them about all forms of sexuality. An effort to push for acceptance, in hopes of pushing out shaming and bullying of LGBTQ relationships.

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State law already bans teaching abstinence-only sex education in Colorado, but Lontine said right now, Charter schools can apply for waivers not to teach comprehensive sex ed. Her bill puts an end to the loophole and adds funding for rural districts to teach it, if they chose to opt in.
"They're teaching abstinence only education which is harmful to kids. It's not an honest conversation," she said.

Bill summary and text...

https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb19-1032

https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/defau...9a_1032_01.pdf


The value of abstinence only isn't some puritanical fantasy about kids not having sex, it merely encourages them not to until they are mature enough to make that decision. This is key in the development of children.

We again see Libs working hard to take this space away from parents in an effort to introduce children to sexuality well before they are ready. If your personal values conflict with the sex ed being taught your public school student now has to weigh the sex ed curriculum with what mom/dad said. And understand you have next to no control over this in public school.

Also you'll find no age restriction on when these things can be taught in the bill or guidance on age appropriate material. We've already seen LGBTQ normalization as early as kindergarten when children have no concept of human sexuality. We are seeing gender dysphonia in elementary aged children, not brought on by an internal conflict/issue but by activist parents and teachers.

It is interesting that the first significant bill the first gay governor will sign effectively forces his lifestyle on the children of the state.

[CS1983]

Was reading through this yesterday.

Not only is it an issue w/ the inability to teach abstinence-only, but also ropes in the LGBT angle where those relationships must be taught as well.

While currently the bill only extends to public and charter schools, the East Coast model eventually extends to private schools and, somehow, even homeschoolers based on what else I've seen in researching it.

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While currently the bill only extends to public and charter schools, the East Coast model eventually extends to private schools and, somehow, even homeschoolers based on what else I've seen in researching it.

Denver Archdiocese says they plan on fighting and resisting. They think it will eventually apply to all private schools.

But not the Jewish or Muslims ones, of course.

You can't say that kids aren't ready for sex after they've gone through puberty. It's one thing to try and teach responsibility, but it is an exercise in futility to pretend for a second that any lessons of responsibility are going to put weigh raging hormones. I'll have to read the bill later to see if there is anything bad in it. Teaching only abstinence is criminally stupid though.

So kids having sex at 11-13ish is a good idea? Even if a child uses this "education" to avoid STDs and pregnancy that is putting kids on a course to fail when they have yet to establish themselves as humans. I knew kids (boys) in high school who had their whole lives altered. Thank God I wasn't that stupid!

"Raging hormones" aren't even an excuse to look at a female the wrong way in 2019. Funny how kids are supposed to navigate this complexity of having sex as children but not saying the wrong thing to a female (MeToo).

If this fits with your values, fine, but you (and Libs) have no right to force that on everyone just as I would have no right to force my values on your kids.

[Irving]

You can't say that kids aren't ready for sex after they've gone through puberty. It's one thing to try and teach responsibility, but it is an exercise in futility to pretend for a second that any lessons of responsibility are going to put weigh raging hormones. I'll have to read the bill later to see if there is anything bad in it. Teaching only abstinence is criminally stupid though.

[hollohas]

You can't say that kids aren't ready for sex after they've gone through puberty. It's one thing to try and teach responsibility, but it is an exercise in futility to pretend for a second that any lessons of responsibility are going to put weigh raging hormones. I'll have to read the bill later to see if there is anything bad in it. Teaching only abstinence is criminally stupid though.

Irving, they're going to "teach" (indoctrinate) them in early elementary school. This isn't just about puberty aged kids.

Do you think it's ok to teach this to 8 and 9 year olds???

PS - do you think it's the school's (government) job to teach kids sex Ed at all???

Students can't recite the Bill of Rights, create a budget, cook or change a tire, but they'll learn all about transexual relationships. Nice. American public schools...preparing kids for nothing for decades. Now coming to a private and charter school near you.

[Irving]

Irving, they're going to "teach" (indoctrinate) them in early elementary school. This isn't just about puberty aged kids.

Do you think it's ok to teach this to 8 and 9 year olds???

PS - do you think it's the school's (government) job to teach kids sex Ed at all???

Students can't recite the Bill of Rights, create a budget, cook or change a tire, but they'll learn all about transexual relationships. Nice. American public schools...preparing kids for nothing for decades. Now coming to a private and charter school near you.

Yes and yes. How do you not put sex ed in the same category of life skills as creating a budget, cooking, or changing a tire? It's the same thing and if any kids can't do those things the fault lies more on parents than it does schools. What was your public school experience? I bet 98% of the members here went to public schools, yet some how they were able to arrive at their social beliefs that fall in line with the board.

That said, I read the summary of the bill and it is a stupid bill and should not exist. FAR too much emphasis is being placed on potentially stereotyped "classes" of people. It'd be stupid to not teach that homosexual relationships exist, but the population is so small that not much more than a mention should be necessary. If there are homosexual kids in class that have specific questions, then maybe they can talk to a counselor or something. General sex education is what is important, especially at young ages. I doubt that k-12 schools have much of a capacity to teach about managing relationships, but that might be beyond what should be a necessary class anyway. Just like with other subjects, extracurricular questions can be investigated on the students own time, or if younger they can ask their parents. Parents should be taking the primary role in education and finessing or outright correcting the subjects their kids learn at school that they don't agree with. Aren't you all doing that with your kids?

As far as not knowing how to change a tire, balance a budget, or cook. Every high school I'm aware of has cooking classes. Tire changing can be learned in a 3 minute YouTube video and doesn't itself justify a class. Auto shop would be an extra class just like cooking. I agree that things like balancing a budget are important. Recently we were looking at the next school for our kids to go to and I was asking the teacher about such real world finance classes. She said they have a class for kids who are old enough to have jobs where they teach them to do their taxes. That wasn't at my high school and it should have been.

[hollohas]

Yes and yes. How do you not put sex ed in the same category of life skills as creating a budget, cooking, or changing a tire?

Because, schools only have so many hours each year to teach kids. I don't think they should be wasting any of those hours teaching kids about LGBT nonsense when they can't even teach the three R's or history effectively.

And yes, if a kid can't change a tire, that's on the parents. But the same holds true for sex ed. Parents just find the birds and the bees talks embarrassing so they're happy to let the schools handle it, when if ANYthing is a family discussion, it's that.

My public school experience was only a couple decades ago but we still had wood shop. PE every day. Metal shop. Home ec. Etc. We had entire semesters on American history every year, not just a day or two like they do now. We had to memorize the preamble and Amendments. We said the Pledge. Most schools don't have much of that at all anymore. And we had no sex ed that I can remember in high school. We had what they called sex ed in middle school but it was focused on puberty and personal hygiene mostly from what I recall.

It's a strange thing, but if you raise kids to be respectful, responsible and mature human beings, that respectfulness extends into personal relationships and social interactions, even without government sponsored sexual "education".

[Irving]

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It's a strange thing, but if you raise kids to be respectful, responsible and mature human beings, that respectfulness extends into personal relationships and social interactions, even without government sponsored sexual "education".

I'm not sure I buy that at all, but to your point, sex ed certainly didn't help either.

[BPTactical]

This state is so very fucked with this administration.

[gta_spec]

Thanks for posting this. My wife went down to provide her testimony against this bill, as it is much more nefarious than they are admitting. 300+ people showed up to testify against the bill, plus thousands of emails.

Only 40 or 50 showed up to testify in favor.

The bill passed on party lines, as the liberals never listened to the people.