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    This is a repost of an email I sent to a group of Men and Women I assist in training. I?m posting it here merely as some decent FYI.

    *Note to the Mods* There are some links that go to products for sale. I have no financial interests or stake in those companies, nor do I sell gear, aside from things out of my own personal stash of extra/used gear.

    Holster Selection Considerations

    We are carrying our guns to defend the lives of others. If we are going to carry or use our firearm, we must do so safely. A good safe holster MUST do all of the following.

    1. Retain the firearm when worn, and allow for a fighting grip on the gun when the Gun is holstered.

    2. COMPLETELY cover the trigger area so that nothing can enter the trigger guard.

    3. Retain its shape regardless of whether the Gun is in the holster or not, and allow for safe holstering/ unholstering with one hand.

    4. Adequately protect the muzzle, and front sight from damage.

    5. Adequately conceal the Gun from view of a potential threat.

    Holster Recommendations

    The following Holsters are safe, well thought out holster designs. This is not an exhaustive list, and if you have questions about your holster, or one you are considering purchasing remember, don?t believe marketing hype, does it exhibit ALL of the 5 points listed above, and can you afford it.

    Appendix Carry Holsters

    https://www.phlsterholsters.com/shop...assic-holster/

    https://blade-tech.com/products/klipt-holster

    https://blade-tech.com/products/ultimate-klipt-holster

    https://tenicor.com/products/velo-aiwb-holster

    https://rcsgear.com/eidolon-appendix-or-strongside-iwb/

    https://www.henryholsters.com/produc...aring-holster/

    https://www.henryholsters.com/product/aiwb-iwb-holster/

    Revolver Holsters

    https://www.phlsterholsters.com/shop...olver-holster/

    https://darkstargear.com/product/jframe/


    Strong Side Carry Holsters

    https://tenicor.com/products/arx-holster

    https://blade-tech.com/products/total-eclipse-holster

    https://rcsgear.com/perun-strongside-owb/

    https://www.blackarchholsters.com/products/protos-m

    Guns

    I challenge each of us to honestly answer the following questions.

    1. In the last 18 years, what highly trained First World Military or Law Enforcement Unit/Agency, (Australia, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, New Zealand, Uk, USA), has adopted for en-masse issue my handgun that I currently choose to carry to protect the lives of those around me?

    2. If I knew I would be in a gunfight tomorrow with 3 well trained adversaries carrying rifles, and I was limited to a handgun I can carry covertly concealed, would it be my handgun? Would I carry it the way I do now? Would I train and practice more often? What would I do differently?

    Be honest, your life, and the lives of those around you could very well depend upon it.

    Ammunition
    Test to ensure your ammunition will reliably function in YOUR Gun, Stock up on it, and swap it out annually.

    .380 ACP
    Ball

    9x19mm,.38 Special, .357 Magnum, .357 Sig
    .40 S&W, & 10mm
    Federal HST
    Speer Gold Dot
    Hornady Critical Duty

    .45 ACP
    Ball


    https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/lodge...-defense-ammo/

    https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/sel...llistic-tests/

    Belts
    If you buy the best holster in the world, but wear a cheaply made belt, you wasted the money on the holster. With firearms, the adgage of but once, cry once is almost always true. Again, not an exhaustive list. Always do research and use reputable sources before making a purchase of anything gun related. For every good quality product on the market, there are thousands more that are junk. Belts are very personal items, do preference and style will play a part. Make sure it does all of the following.

    1. Keeps your pants up! Please, we?d all appreciate that.

    2. Will support whatever equipment you are going to carry with it.

    3. Won?t stretch over time.

    4. Is comfortable enough for all day use. For strong side carry, or lots of equipment, most find a thicker and stiffer belt is desirable. While appendix carriers typically find a slightly more flexible belt to be better.

    https://www.bigtexoutdoors.com/produ...belt-el-burro/

    https://www.first-spear.com/line-one-belt-biothane-r

    http://store.volundgearworks.com/ind...-biothane.html

    https://thesuperbelt.com/

    If your belt looks like this, it?s probably time to switch it out anyway.

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    Lights

    Carry at least one. SureFire or Streamlight. At least 500 lumens of output.
    Large enough to get a full fighting grip on the light, without covering up the lens.

    Tourniquets

    Carry at least one of the following, and be trained and practiced in its use.

    SOF-T Wide.
    CAT-T.
    RMT.

    Extra Ammunition/ Reloads

    Carry one. Ideally larger one than the one in your gun. Put it in a pouch, even if it?s in a pocket.


    Unsafe Holsters

    In order to better understand what makes a good safe holster I will explain and illustrate in detail what makes an unsafe holster.

    1. Poor/insufficient tension that retains the Gun. (Gravity, Fall, and Run Tests)
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    2. Exposed Trigger Guard. You are just waiting for a painful or deadly lesson to occur!
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    3. Flimsy cheap materials and construction, weak under designed attachment methods: Paddles, J-Hooks/Clips, FOMI plastic clips, Loops/Clips made from Kydex.
    Some Examples include:
    99% of all Hybrid holsters, Alien Gear, Blackhawk, Bianchi, Bravo, Clip Draw, Crossbreed, DeSantis, Galco, Fobus, Uncle Mike?s, Urban Carry, Versa Carry, etc.
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    https://youtu.be/BUvpH1u3c-0

    https://youtu.be/jM6ERorBLQQ

    4. If the holster leaves the muzzle and front sight completely exposed can easily allow the Gun to be pushed up and out of the holster.
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    5. Bulky, poorly thought out and designed Holsters that will print through all but the heaviest winter clothing.
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    6. Holsters that prevent a full fighting grip from being acquired while the gun is completely holstered.
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    7. Holsters that require the trigger finger to press/push/manipulate a lever or button in order to release the gun from the holster.
    BLACKHAWK! SERPA Holster, and similar products.
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    Here are just three examples of why I will not train students in the use of an inherently flawed design, nor will most reputable instructors.

    http://soldiersystems.net/2017/06/23...serpa-holster/

    https://www.fletc.gov/sites/default/...isterStudy.pdf

    https://youtu.be/ug36_5hJ59I

    8. Holsters that will not retain their shape when empty. Either by design, or material selection.
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    Our gear and equipment choices should not be taken lightly. I hope and pray that all of us will think and reevaluate our choices in regards to what we carry and how, as well as our training to subconscious competence.




    Behind every blade of grass is a Threeper trying to get his budget AR-15 to work.
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    .45ACP Ball?! da fuq?!

    It's 2019, not circa WWII
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    Like most commentary- some good points, some crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    .45ACP Ball?! da fuq?!

    It's 2019, not circa WWII
    Most non .45 ACP caliber defensive handgun ammunition, (9x19, .40 S&W) replicates .45 ACP ball in terms of penetration and expansion in testing. If your gun will reliably cycle some of the modern hollow points available for .45 ACP, then by all means.

    But if I?m erring on the side of not knowing what handgun a person owns and chooses to carry, and having to recommend something that will work, I?d opt for the one round that has the best chance of reliability in that unknown handgun chambered in .45 ACP.

    .380 is a similar story, except that for all the
    .380 defensive ammunition on the market, a majority has difficulty in reaching FBI minimums for consistent penetration. And many older .380?s and some newer just flat work better with the ball variety.

    In very simplistic terms Bang beats click every time, and as long as we?re not talking about a round with significant penetration like 9x19, then ball .45 ACP, and .380 ACP is something that will work. Trust, but verify, especially with potential life saving pieces of equipment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    Like most commentary- some good points, some crap.
    Thanks .455.
    If you have time, I am genuinely interested in what part is crap. I appreciate constructive criticism/informed debate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_K View Post
    Thanks .455.
    If you have time, I am genuinely interested in what part is crap. I appreciate constructive criticism/informed debate.
    One really good thing you mentioned was "Put it in a pouch, even if it's in a pocket." with reference to reloads.

    A few things I think could be improved:

    Complete neglect of the "pocket carry" method used by a high percentage of carriers (both civilian and LEO).

    500 lumens is too bright for nighttime indoor operations where you could be blinded by your own light reflecting off mirrors, windows, even white gloss walls.

    OWB holsters with hammer retaining straps and exposed triggers are perfectly fine for hammered revolvers and hammered DA/SA autos carried fully decocked.

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    Do you have experience blinding yourself with a 500 lumen light? I certainly have, but only when I'm trying to do some administrative task or something like looking into a small hole in the wall. My light is 900 lumens.
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Do you have experience blinding yourself with a 500 lumen light? I certainly have, but only when I'm trying to do some administrative task or something like looking into a small hole in the wall. My light is 900 lumens.
    Yes. Maybe I have senisitve night vision, but I have zinged myself with reflected high lumen lights to the point that my response effectiveness would have been compromised. My EDC lights are generally 50 - 100 lumens.

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    I have a 1000 lumen light on a long gun and it?s great for outside.

    I recently stuck a 500 lumen light on one of my handguns and I?m thinking it might be a bit much. I lit up a wall in my bedroom in total darkness and it pretty much blinded me for a second. Actually thinking about replacing it with something a little less bright.

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    I guess my biggest concern about threads like this is that they ignore the fact that dude who puts 50 rds downrange per year and carries a .38 snub loaded with five rds 158 gr LRN on a Walmart belt in a Uncle Mike's holster is already about 90-95% on the graph of defensive preparedness. The last 5% is a lot of fuss, bother, and cost for not much return, but sure is fun to talk about.
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