Flying Frontier

[PogoManiac7]

So, I was wanting to fly frontier and take my AR with me to go shooting with the relatives over thanksgiving.

Do you know what the policy is with ammo?

What I want to do is load up 8-10 PMAGS and put the dust covers on them, and then throw those in the same locked case as the AR.

Do you guys know if that is acceptable?


Here is all the info that they have on the website.


"Firearms & ammunition
Transporting firearms and ammunition is serious business. We understand your right to bear arms, but we do have some specific rules which comply with security requirements about checking them.

For everyone's safety, we ask that you familiarize yourself and comply with the rules when requesting transport of firearms and related equipment. Firearms, ammunition and firearm parts may be transported in checked baggage on flights operating in the U.S., but are prohibited from being carried-on. In other words, you'll never make it through security, so if you want your equipment to arrive at your destination, you have to check it.

Note: On flights in the U.S., hunting rifles, shotguns and ammunition may be transported by passengers 18 years of age or older. Firearms are not allowed on any other international flights even if checked.

All firearms must be unloaded and declared to a customer service representative at the ticket counter.
Firearms must be packed in a hard-sided, locked container (or suitcase) or a hard-sided, locked gun case.
You must be present during screening by the TSA and provide the key or combination to the TSA security screener if it becomes necessary to open the container.
One passenger is allowed to check up to 11 pounds of ammunition.
Any ammunition transported must be securely packed in the original manufacturer's packaging, fiber (such as cardboard), wood or metal boxes or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition.
Loaded ammunition clips and magazines must also be securely boxed
The ammunition may be located in the same hard-sided locked case as the firearm, as long as it's properly packed as described.
Black powder and percussion caps used with black-powder type firearms aren't permitted in carry-on or checked baggage.

We take the safety and security of our passengers and employees with the utmost seriousness. These regulatory requirements are strictly enforced. Violations can result in criminal prosecution and the imposition of civil penalties of up to $10,000 per violation. "

[copfish]

I'm pretty certain you must have the ammo in factory packaging. I was not allowed to have a loaded magazine for my Glock when I flew United, yet I was allowed to have several boxes of ammo.

[PogoManiac7]

What sealed packages of .223 ammo on stripper clips?

http://www.classicarms.us/

A long ways down that website there is an ammo deal that I bought that has a bunch of stripper clips sealed in packaging.

[sniper7]

ammo just needs to be in some type of sealed box. the agents won't know what is factory and what isn't. as long as it is separate from the firearm you are safe, just follow the weight limit.
(you can use a ammo can, or use a small cardboard box, or a wooden box.

[Irving]

Are you going to be leaving your thumbs at home so you can't load when you're there?

[MuzzleFlash]

The TSA requires only that ammo and guns not be in the same locked container. The TSA has gotten pretty picky about the hard cases. If they can be easily pried open, they will reject the luggage.

Carriers can add their own rules including limits on the amount of ammo you can bring and whether or not the ammo has to go into a separate suitcase.

Here is a good link to travelling with guns:
http://deviating.net/firearms/packing/report.html

I avoid Frontier religiously because of their ignorant, backwards ban on fully automatic firearms:
http://www.frontierairlines.com/fron...ggage-chart.do

When I reported this policy to the above firearms friendly rating website, he called them for clarification. I received the following email response:

Well well, i finally got someone to comment about the policy. It seems
that Frontier does not...

* educate their employees well on matters relating to firearms
* understand the definition of an assault weapon
* believe that citizens have any reason to own and transport full autos

- From a phone call i had with their staff, after many times being kicked
around the phone network in an attempt to reach someone with an answer...

audio: http://deviating.net/firearms/packing/quote.mp3

text: OK sir, we got a hold of somebody who kinda clarified that.
They're referring to like more like an assualt rifle machine gun... and
the reason, uhm the person i spoke to said, well i don't know if this is
the exact reason, but i guess what Frontier is thinking is that's not
really the kind of weapon that your average person needs to be flying
with. You know we accept your regular shotguns, rifles, you know,
pistols... fully-automatic weapons, assault rifles, are not gonna be
transported by air on Frontier.

Thank you so much for bringing this up. Hopefully they will improve
their policies. If they fail to, hopefully they will at least mention
this rather significant restriction on the actual firearms page of their
site.

Thanks again!

- - dev

[Hellboy]

So I take it Frontier doesn't allow any of our soldiers to fly with their weapons?

[ryanek9freak]

Uh, no, they soldiers cant just take their M-4's with them wherever they please. Those are highly sensitive materiels handled by logistics. They belong to the Army, not the soldier. ANd by "their" I assume you meant army issued weapons. They could still take privatley owned weapons, just like you and I.

[Hellboy]

They could still take privatley owned weapons, just like you and I.

Just no AR's or Assault rifles.

[hobowh]

you can take your ars, they just have to be checked bagage and properl declared, and packaged.