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    Default Supreme Court Blasts Civil Asset Forfeiture

    Supreme Court Blasts Civil Asset Forfeiture; Explains To Indiana That The Constitution Applies There

    https://www.redstate.com/streiff/201...ution-applies/

    It is hard to overstate just how important this ruling is. It clearly sets the groundwork for successful attacks on civil asset forfeiture everywhere. The fact that the decision is 9-0 means there is limited ability to skirt it. Now it is a matter of time until it simply becomes too expensive for law enforcement agencies to engage in an action that is guaranteed to land them in court with a very, very weak hand.

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    Thank goodness. This is an issue that is very important to me.
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    Unless of course, there are firearms in the vicinity of the not a crime..
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    Since there doesn't have to be evidence of a crime, what protection do you have? Is a withdrawal receipt from the bank enough? If I'm carrying enough cash to be a candidate for civil forfeiture, you can bet I'll also be armed, if not wearing some type of body armor. All of that would look mighty fishy to a police officer, since everything looks fishy to a police officer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Since there doesn't have to be evidence of a crime, what protection do you have? Is a withdrawal receipt from the bank enough? If I'm carrying enough cash to be a candidate for civil forfeiture, you can bet I'll also be armed, if not wearing some type of body armor. All of that would look mighty fishy to a police officer, since everything looks fishy to a police officer.
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    I'm wondering about using this to attack Red Flag laws. If they can't seize property without a criminal conviction(or without a warrant issued to collect evidence in a criminal case), doesn't that make Red Flag seizure even more unconstitutional?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    I'm wondering about using this to attack Red Flag laws. If they can't seize property without a criminal conviction(or without a warrant issued to collect evidence in a criminal case), doesn't that make Red Flag seizure even more unconstitutional?
    One would think.

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    Definitely a step in the right direction. While it didn't "outlaw" it (so to speak), it definitely makes CF a lot more difficult. I think it'd now be pretty easy to sue the seizing body if they take your property without any sort of conviction to back it up.

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    Being they also addressed egregious fines, how long before someone lowers the boom on those imposed by the EPA on regular folk?

    ETA: Particularly egregious after nothing was done to the EPA or contractor that caused the Gold king mine spill.
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