Mosque Shooting in New Zealand

[Shooter45]

Standby to see this used for an example of why the public does not need AR's, and to include more protections against "islamaphobia."

[Erni]

Psycho left a 94 page manifest. 94 pages. Clearly nuts.

[def90]

Psycho left a 94 page manifest. 94 pages. Clearly nuts.

Yeah, that is where he details his grevences in which many are conflicting. His manifesto states that he believes his actions will ignite a civil war in the US over the 2nd Amendment leading to the “Balkanization” of the country and preserving white culture. Hes also seems to be upset at the US over their siding with muslims and bombing of whites in Kosovo.

[KS63]

Yeah, that is where he details his grevences in which many are conflicting. His manifesto states that he believes his actions will ignite a civil war in the US over the 2nd Amendment leading to the “Balkanization” of the country and preserving white culture. Hes also seems to be upset at the US over their siding with muslims and bombing of whites in Kosovo.

Great, so not only do we need to watch what happens in the US, now we’ve got to worry about what physcopaths do in Foreign countries. Fuck!

[Great-Kazoo]

Great, so not only do we need to watch what happens in the US, now we’ve got to worry about what physcopaths do in Foreign countries. Fuck!

Psycho's and true believers have been doing this for centuries around the world. IMO it's not our problem (directly) or will terrorist / ideology attacks ever stop.

While here in the U.S. The gun grabbers are more interested in eradicating the gun, instead of looking at what causes people to go off the rails.

At the same time Ignoring the Who, What, When , Where and Why this happens.
Parkland and the education system, is a microcosm of leftist turning an eye to trouble, waiting for something to happen.
Then DEMAND Action. Hand wringing, media colluding to add one more layer or restriction on a Constitutional Right.

[def90]

in his manifesto he also stated that he could have used any means of attack that would have created as many deaths, a truck bomb, a plane.. going on to list many other avenues of attack including a ball peen hammer but he chose a firearm because he knew it would cause the left in the US to demand gun control and push the country in to civil war.

manifesto:
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...d-Shooter.html

”Finally, to create conflict between the two ideologies within the United States on the ownership of firearms in order to further the social, cultural, political and racial divide within the United states.This conflict over the 2nd amendment and the attempted removal of firearms rights will ultimately result in a civil war that will eventually balkanize the US along political, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.

This balkanization of the US will not only result in the racial separation of the people within the United States ensuring the future of the White race on the North American continent, but also ensuring the death of the “melting pot” pipe dream.”

”Why did you choose to use firearms?

I could have chosen any weapons or means.A TATP filled rental van. Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source.A ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield.Gas,fire,vehicular attacks,plane attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources.

I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world.

The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state, social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.

With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty.

This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing of the US along cultural and racial lines.”

[Skip]

manifesto:

[snip]

I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world.

[snip]

And here we have (again) confirmation that the media's obsession with disarming the American people messages that the best way to gain notoriety and stay in the news is to use a black rifle.

[UrbanWolf]

These creatures just gets crazier every time.

in his manifesto he also stated that he could have used any means of attack that would have created as many deaths, a truck bomb, a plane.. going on to list many other avenues of attack including a ball peen hammer but he chose a firearm because he knew it would cause the left in the US to demand gun control and push the country in to civil war.

manifesto:
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...d-Shooter.html

?Finally, to create conflict between the two ideologies within the United States on the ownership of firearms in order to further the social, cultural, political and racial divide within the United states.This conflict over the 2nd amendment and the attempted removal of firearms rights will ultimately result in a civil war that will eventually balkanize the US along political, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.

This balkanization of the US will not only result in the racial separation of the people within the United States ensuring the future of the White race on the North American continent, but also ensuring the death of the ?melting pot? pipe dream.?

?Why did you choose to use firearms?

I could have chosen any weapons or means.A TATP filled rental van. Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source.A ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield.Gas,fire,vehicular attacks,plane attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources.

I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world.

The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state, social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.

With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty.

This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing of the US along cultural and racial lines.?

[Skip]

Disgusting.

Equally disgusting (and yes I say equally because it's giving the nutter what he wants to encourage copycats) is American/global media doing everything they can to link this to their political enemies in the US. Everything from gun control to Trump and white supremacy. "White supremacy" meaning peopled who didn't vote for Clinton, not actual white supremacists.

[Martinjmpr]

If anything it seems like this attack would undermine the arguments for gun control in the US. After all, NZ has much stricter gun laws than the US, and he was still able to do this. So it seems all this attack (and the one in Norway) demonstrates is that if someone is determined to attack innocents with a gun they're going to find a way to do it, laws be damned.

And yes, I understand that's not the way the media or the gun control advocates will spin it but that is the way that a lot of people "in the middle" (i.e. not committed strongly to either side of the gun debate) are likely to see it.