Did Russia influence the election?

[Irving]

I decided not to post this in the politics section because I think it goes beyond that. I've been pretty checked out of politics for the last few years, so while I constantly hear about certain things, I'm not following them or really looking into them much. One thing is the investigation into Russia tampering with the 2016 election. I listened to the Joe Rogan podcast today with Renee DiResta and was pretty fascinated with the info on what the Russian company was actually doing as far as social manipulation of people in the US. So here are links to the Joe Rogan podcast, and also the podcast from a few weeks before with Sam Harris if you think that you don't like Rogan. I've only listed to the Rogan one. I think it's pretty interesting the depths and specificity that Russia went to, to accomplish whatever it was that they were after. I'll conclude by saying that if you don't think that this affects you personally, there is a very strong chance that it does. If you're on any social media (including here), it definitely does, and even if you aren't, there is a pretty small chance that you aren't at least in contact with people who've been directly engaged in this campaign. Give it a listen, it's fascinating.

ETA: This doesn't really answer the question in the title, because I don't really think that they know. It just demonstrates the things Russia did from collected data, and it's way more than I ever imagined.

*Protip, if you listen on Sticher or something similar, you can speed up the play back and knock this out in less time. I find that 1.5x speed doesn't take much to get used to but 2x right off the bat is tough to adjust to. Pretty sure you can adjust the speed with YouTube as well.

[Ah Pook]

Russian trolls are nothing new on JR. Looks like it's done on both sides.

Listening at 1.5 or 2.0 sounds like Minny Mouse.

Try and listen to it this week.

[Great-Kazoo]

I don't believe they did anything to give the election to trump. IMO they did or do the same thing all PAC's do, only better.

[Irving]

It's definitely done on both sides from what I gather.

[brutal]

*Protip, if you listen on Sticher or something similar, you can speed up the play back and knock this out in less time. I find that 1.5x speed doesn't take much to get used to but 2x right off the bat is tough to adjust to. Pretty sure you can adjust the speed with YouTube as well.

Right there in the Youtube settings (gear) icon is the speed. I almost always listen at 1.25 or 1.5

[Great-Kazoo]

Here are a few question for the OP and anyone else.

At what point after the candidates were selected, on the R & D side, did you know who you were voting for?



Do you also believe there were as many "undecideds" going in to election night as the media said there were?


Did you believe, based on the media's non-stop blabbering about the Super Delegates. HRC was going to run away with the electoral college?

I ask, since the questions are based off the 24/7 ass kissing of the media for HRC. Who i believe did more to try influencing the election that any russian bot.

[roberth]

Here are a few question for the OP and anyone else.

At what point after the candidates were selected, on the R & D side, did you know who you were voting for?



Do you also believe there were as many "undecideds" going in to election night as the media said there were?


Did you believe, based on the media's non-stop blabbering about the Super Delegates. HRC was going to run away with the electoral college?

I ask, since the questions are based off the 24/7 ass kissing of the media for HRC. Who i believe did more to try influencing the election that any russian bot.

After the contestants were finalized I knew I was voting for Donald Trump, there is no way on God's green earth I was gong to vote for a communist criminal like HRC.

The media was wrong on every point they tried to make.

Aren't the super delegates a DNC creation, they don't have anything to do with the Electoral College. I certainly thought that HRC was going to win, I was very surprised and pleased the next morning to see that Donald had won.

The Russians had nothing on the US media for election influence.

[Irving]

Here are a few question for the OP and anyone else.

At what point after the candidates were selected, on the R & D side, did you know who you were voting for?



Do you also believe there were as many "undecideds" going in to election night as the media said there were?


Did you believe, based on the media's non-stop blabbering about the Super Delegates. HRC was going to run away with the electoral college?

I ask, since the questions are based off the 24/7 ass kissing of the media for HRC. Who i believe did more to try influencing the election that any russian bot.

Once it was down to Trump and Hillary, I knew I wasn't voting for president at all. I voted for everything else but President. The news told me that if I voted anything but Hillary, then Trump would win. People on here and my family screamed at me (in person) and said that I just gave the presidency to Hillary.

I didn't give thought to who was undecided.

The Russians had nothing on the US media for election influence.

I completely agree that the media was/is a huge factor to influence people. However, I question if it is more or less than the effects of social media. People have turned into such cowards nowadays and they tend to only stick to their own tribes and don't actually talk to people in person who they might not agree with politically. I think a LOT more Russian influence is in social media than people realize, as def90 was talking about.

[Great-Kazoo]

Once it was down to Trump and Hillary, I knew I wasn't voting for president at all. I voted for everything else but President. The news told me that if I voted anything but Hillary, then Trump would win. People on here and my family screamed at me (in person) and said that I just gave the presidency to Hillary.

I didn't give thought to who was undecided.


don't actually talk to people in person who they might not agree with politically. I think a LOT more Russian influence is in social media than people realize, as def90 was talking about.

I've tried having conversations with those who have a different political opinion then i do. Some will listen, politely, then decied or already made up their mind. I'm a nazi, racist who hates XXXX and X.

Usually that happens after i explain to them, after asked why i don't accept Muslims. That Islam / Muslims consider women 2nd class citizens, homosexuality only merits a death penalty. Oh they also (devout ones) have no issue imprisoning you for consuming alcohol, like that beer> your drinking.

Pointing out a religion and people they are so accepting of, are in direct conflict with everything they believe. Usually sets them off, big time.
Throw in the urban areas with the largest number of lower income "People of Color" are located in decades old democratic areas. Which BTW, also have a higher incarceration rate for minorities.

[Eric P]

So the US influences foriegn elections. Why is anyone surprised that a foreign government influences ours?