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    I'm not making a claim to how I think this case should be charged. Just commenting on the often used phrase of "If I did that, I'd be in jail." Most often said by a person who would be most likely to get off and not spend time in jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I'm not making a claim to how I think this case should be charged. Just commenting on the often used phrase of "If I did that, I'd be in jail." Most often said by a person who would be most likely to get off and not spend time in jail.
    OK...and I'll agree that's pretty rampant around here. Most people think that if one commits a crime they automatically go to jail upon sentencing. As a matter of fact, jail time is likely the exception, not the rule, for first-time offenders committing most non-violent crimes.

    Fuck...now I have to admit that I agree with Rahm Emanuel on something:

    After charges were dropped against "Empire" star Jussie Smollett for allegedly staging his own hate crime, Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel are furious with the outcome, calling it a "whitewash of justice" that cost the city more than $10,000.

    "Where is the accountability in the system? You cannot have because of a person's position one set of rules applies to them and another set of rules apply to everyone else," Emanuel fumed...

    Fox News

    But, hey, Rahm...what about your buddy HRC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    He committed a HATE crime. That is what he did. He sought to defame, punish, intimidate, insult, stir up hate against another person because of their supposed race. He should get the same sentence that someone who committed the fake crime he accused them of would have gotten.
    100% agreed.
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    In an unrelated story, the Chicago PD is getting a truck full of new gear.
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    And the SOB comes out and does a press conference stating he's innocent.

    Hope to see Federal crimes relating to his mailing threats to himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    In an unrelated story, the Chicago PD is getting a truck full of new gear.
    Yep, and a cool million under the table to the DA and the mayor (despite his protestation). It is Chicago....

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    Hopefully, Smollet should still have to deal with having sent himself threatening letters via USPS in a different state. I hope he gets the book thrown at him at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I'm not making a claim to how I think this case should be charged. Just commenting on the often used phrase of "If I did that, I'd be in jail." Most often said by a person who would be most likely to get off and not spend time in jail.
    If i filed a false police report, I would be arrested. Plea bargained perhaps, depending how much my lawyer cost.

    Lily white's would get a pass, due to their ability to pay atty fees.

    The just us system is not based upon how innocent or guilty you are. But rather how good an attorney you can afford.


    Now if you go to the conspiracy side then this may be interesting

    According to USA Today, court documents reveal that Obama’s former chief of staff, Tina Tchen, contacted Kim Foxx, the Chicago-area’s lead prosecutor, before charges were brought against Smollett in February to request that the police department let the FBI take over the investigation into the since-fired “Empire” star.
    The paper reports that texts and emails provided by the Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office show that Tchen told Foxx that Smollett’s family had “concerns” about how the Chicago PD were handling the case, which eventually turned dramatically against the actor and singer. Tchen, an attorney based in Chicago who co-founded the Times Up Legal Defense Fund, encouraged Foxx to contact Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson to ask him to cede the investigation to federal authorities.....
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    The issue isn't so much $, it's that a single, lone, appointed individual controls all aspects of justice, whether or not their is a jury. And that individual is who dropped all charges here, and setup this actor on a path where he will inevitable sue everybody and profit off settlements.

    Whatever you think of people, everyone has biological biases, no matter who they are. It's a product of our memory and our subconscious processes trying to predict behavior of people we meet based on our memory. So when a single individual controls the process, you are at the mercy of all of those subconscious biases - whether you slightly remind them of an ex-spouse or a bad client; or you remind them of their nice old neighbor or "the one that got away", that influences their decisions. Then case law is so contradictory that they can support any position they want to take; so at the end of the day, the judge influences the system to have whomever they feel is "right" be the victor; as opposed to a system based on the rule of law and evidence.

    The only way attorneys and $ really play into it is largely the "who you know" aspect, where certain judges will also incorporate their feelings of certain attorneys into their decision making - consciously or unconsciously, as well as the attorney helping to pick the right case law to justify the decision the judge already wants to take.

    These are political appointments, for life. And this judge probably got himself a nice little upgrade.

    I'd hazard a guess that judge will be retiring soon, into a much, much bigger house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OxArt View Post
    The issue isn't so much $, it's that a single, lone, appointed individual controls all aspects of justice, whether or not their is a jury. And that individual is who dropped all charges here, and setup this actor on a path where he will inevitable sue everybody and profit off settlements.

    Whatever you think of people, everyone has biological biases, no matter who they are. It's a product of our memory and our subconscious processes trying to predict behavior of people we meet based on our memory. So when a single individual controls the process, you are at the mercy of all of those subconscious biases - whether you slightly remind them of an ex-spouse or a bad client; or you remind them of their nice old neighbor or "the one that got away", that influences their decisions. Then case law is so contradictory that they can support any position they want to take; so at the end of the day, the judge influences the system to have whomever they feel is "right" be the victor; as opposed to a system based on the rule of law and evidence.

    The only way attorneys and $ really play into it is largely the "who you know" aspect, where certain judges will also incorporate their feelings of certain attorneys into their decision making - consciously or unconsciously, as well as the attorney helping to pick the right case law to justify the decision the judge already wants to take.

    These are political appointments, for life. And this judge probably got himself a nice little upgrade.

    I'd hazard a guess that judge will be retiring soon, into a much, much bigger house.
    Except for the fact this dismissal was not decided by a judge. The State Assistant AG dismissed charges before it ever got to a judge.
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