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    The thing that gives me hope is that in an election cycle, the media works hard to mischaracterize Democrats as being centrists, while doing everything they can to embarrass Republicans. Which means the folks get very little info on how elections change our lives until they do. The Dems get elected and force Leftist policies on us that negatively impacts individuals, and people wake up.

    Imagine being the blue collar independent who works in an industry impacted by this but voted for it because "Republicans are racist" or "that GOP guy said something stupid."

    Imagine the middle class voter who is looking at declining O&G revenue, paying for full day Kindergarten, and now the latest healthcare effort by Polis? Kind of hard to write those checks yourself.

    In other words: When virtue signaling gets real.
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    also gives me hope, but not much of it. After all, all one has to do is look at several of the carrier politicians and what they have done, but yet, they keep getting voted in time and time again. It's gotten to the point that people that identify as a "D" simply can't bring themselves to vote for anyone with a "R" after their name.
    Look at Colo. this last voting cycle. The state voted down every tax increase that was on the ballot, BUT yet they voted over overwhelmingly to put the "D"s in control of the legislation and what do the "D"s have on the agenda, MORE TAXES and lots of programs that need MORE TAXES.
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    Recalls are really a big effort. The reality is that gunowners tend to actually have jobs so the only way to collect the necessary signatures is to hire polling firms who can get people to walk the neighborhoods while we're at work. You just can't get enough signatures on the weekends alone. It's great that the Gallindo recall was approved to go ahead but that started their clock -- getting the necessary signatures in the allotted time is critical, I wish them luck.

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    If the targeted audience also has jobs, then walking the streets during the day is a waste of time and those same people with jobs would be better off going after work anyway. It's way easier to just pretend that having a job takes all of your time and farm out the effort I guess.
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    Irving, I'm speaking from experience in working the REcallMORSE campaign but thanks for your comment. I worked weekends and holidays to get signatures but we flat out would not have made it without the paid help.

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    I'm not disagreeing with paid help. The reality is that is what gets stuff done.
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    Galindo cares about energy workers now...

    https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb19-1314

    Just Transition From Coal-based Electrical Energy Economy

    The bill creates the just transition office in the division of employment and training in the department of labor and employment. Beginning in 2025, the office, led by a director, will administer the following:

    Benefits to coal transition workers to enable them to support themselves and their families and to access and complete education and training, resulting in being hired for high-quality jobs; and

    Grants to eligible entities in coal transition communities that seek to create a more diversified, equitable, and vibrant economic future for those communities.
    An electric utility that proposes to retire a coal-fueled electric generating facility shall submit to the office a workforce transition plan at least 90 days before the retirement of the facility.

    The bill creates a just transition advisory committee to advise the director regarding implementation of the bill.

    So that's nice.

    But there's no plan here to recreate these jobs. It sounds the same "transition everyone to the service economy" BS from Obama.
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    Very interesting.
    Just a side note:
    Coal workers in Craig were some of the most visible of the income tax protestors in the 80's saying that they should not have to pay taxes.
    Now, the taxpayers are helping them out with their transition to other jobs.
    Hmmm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BladesNBarrels View Post
    Very interesting.
    Just a side note:
    Coal workers in Craig were some of the most visible of the income tax protestors in the 80's saying that they should not have to pay taxes.
    Now, the taxpayers are helping them out with their transition to other jobs.
    Hmmm?
    No. There's no jobs to transition them to. This bill just puts words to what Dems are doing to workers.

    Much like Obama's Solyndra scandal. The Green Energy economy is nothing more than a white paper. So it can't absorb these losses (jobs/revenue).

    The only jobs will be service sector jobs, which I think is part of the hidden agenda. But the idea these people are going to give up well paying field jobs, move Denver, and buy a $400K house, to work in a call center is laughable.

    And the call center needs electricity/heat. So what will CO employers do with all this increased cost? Hire more?
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