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    Quote Originally Posted by OxArt View Post
    PS: Once the universal flu vaccine is FDA approved [which I discussed earlier], I definitely think it should be part of the required vaccine schedule to enter public schools.
    Existing flu vaccines are so frequent and often ineffective that there should be some choice insofar as that is concerned. The universal is a game changer, though, and as soon as the science was available they committed it to preventing those 59k/year deaths.

    Kids do have an actual right to live, and to grow up, despite the "rights" of their parent(s) to substantially increase their risk of death. Oh, wait, parents don't have that right, we covered that.
    Why do we need a flu vaccine thats at best, only 20-40% effective?

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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/drug-th...pan-1519387247

    https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/n...roved-in-japan

    https://www.sciencealert.com/japanes...nogi-baloxavir


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    Good news is that the bill is laid over and will not be considered this year.

    https://twitter.com/DenverChannel/st...48333717299202


    So it was a big of enough public safety concern to override individual liberty but not important enough to get a vote? Sounds like the Dem majority was going to feel some heat on this. The GOP is effectively irrelevant in this session.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    You guys get your TB shots?

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    You guys get your Hepatitis shots?

    Colorado reports 52 cases of hepatitis A amid outbreak

    https://www.thedenverchannel.com/lif...-amid-outbreak

    Colorado Department of Public Health Environment said Thursday that the outbreak has affected people experiencing homelessness and those with substance-use issues, along with individuals who are incarcerated and the contacts of those at-risk.

    Another head scratcher. Forcibly vaccinate the kids but you still have these pockets of fringe. Can the concerned public health advocates deal with this?

    CaliforniaWest has the same problem in every major city. They have spent millions power washing shit of sidewalks and sanitizing. I thought our cold climate would help, but nope.
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    Maybe I'm looking at it differently, but when I read about outbreaks, it's telling me that regardless of the rules, people aren't getting vaccinated.
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Strikes me as completely ridiculous that we imposed the risks of an intervention (vaccine) on children*, to eradicate a disease, only to have open borders globalism resurrect that disease. What was the cost and risk for?
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    Colorado Department of Public Health Environment said Thursday that the outbreak has affected people experiencing homelessness...
    Just get them homes and they won't be at risk.

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    Good news: you usually recover from Hep A, it's not lifetime.
    Bad news: Unlike the lifetime ones, you can get it from contamination, e.g. food service worker scratches his ass at mickey-D's and touches your fries. I forget if the shot required for food service/medical (I think so?) but then again, it's totally their right to say no and keep their job.

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    Ah yup, didn't remember that right. Reporting requirements for Hep A in food service (and prohibition from working infected), not vaccination (never worked good service myself). Luckily it seems like a shitty, but not too fatal disease so meh, I'll still have my ass-fries.

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    Twice in my lifetime that I can remember, the food service worker that was infected was preparing salads. The fries are probably OK.
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    I'm not talking about traditional flu shots. There are apparently at least three different designs of a universal at various points in trial. (I only knew of the one) at any rate, you would probably be looking at 75% + effectiveness even year to year and a schedule more like a tetanus shot (once a decade). That, yeah, I would support.

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