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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    No, it's just nobody wants to hang out with you.....
    Also true!
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    The official story so far is that her parents reported her missing and the FL cops found her website and alerted the FBI who them found out she had already flown to CO and bought a shotgun legally. It sounds like she used a ride sharing service to the foothills. Let’s not get carried away with all of the false flag /red flag talk and focus on the fact that one 18 girl with a shotgun has managed to shut down the entire front range. That’s the real story. Lot of conspiracy BS when the truth is the Dems won’t let a tragedy go to waste. Let’s hype up the whole state

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    So to sum up, an 18 year old who as near as we can tell, has not committed any crime, has paralyzed the city with fear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    A "BOLO" sent out by Rocky Mountain Safe Streets Task Force says ?NO PC TO ARREST" meaning authorities at the time the BOLO was created did not have enough probable cause to arrest her. The sheet also says, "If contacted detain and evaluate mental health status then contact Det. Gilbert immediately."
    and there you have it.

    she has done nothing to warrant arrest.

    So has she really made threats? It doesn't look like it.

    This is the beginning of the next step after red flag laws, the ability to put people on lists with no due process to prevent them from BUYING a gun.

    It is coming, you will see more news like this to convince the public, that there are people that need to be prevented form buying guns cause of the children.

    maybe she just decided to go hiking in the rockies and wanted bear protection.
    Threats are probably rambling on social media.
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    Observation 1) There has never been any threat by the girl or there would be PC to arrest. Threatening that kind of action, is an offense that gives PC to arrest. As is even threatening to harm one person.
    Observation 2) It's kind of unusual to call the parents and have an "FBI Investigator" answer the parents phone, respond to the media, and claim to be questioning the parents.

    To the extent this is real, it's boiled down to:
    1. 18 yo girl might have expressed interest in Columbine (but has apparently never threatened to do a repeat, which would be PC)
    2. 18yo girl might have traveled to Colorado and might have bought a shotgun.

    Meanwhile, all of the front range panics like an ICBM is incoming, shutters all the schools, etc.

    I wonder to what extent this is actually an NSA case -- you know, how they give "tips" to local law enforcement based on all the surveillance of US Citizens that they don't do, giving LE a heads up to invent PC to arrest someone the NSA feels is dangerous, but yet, can't be based upon what the NSA actually intercepted because that would be, illegal to spy on it's own citizens without PC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPA View Post
    This whole thing just proves how unprepared our schools are for dealing with something like this. She gave away her plan by making threats which got her on the radar. Our schools need to be prepared to deal with not only nuts like this, but the threats that do not make themselves known. Schools need to be prepared to deal with this kind of thing on a day to day basis. Once you make it known that schools can deal with this kind of thing, that alone will deter anyone from thinking schools are a soft target anymore.
    Nah, they think fences and gate guards are too third world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    So to sum up, an 18 year old who as near as we can tell, has not committed any crime, has paralyzed the city with fear?
    It looks that way. Of course, the news people will give themselves a pat on the back for being proactive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OxArt View Post
    Observation 1) There has never been any threat by the girl or there would be PC to arrest. Threatening that kind of action, is an offense that gives PC to arrest. As is even threatening to harm one person.
    Observation 2) It's kind of unusual to call the parents and have an "FBI Investigator" answer the parents phone, respond to the media, and claim to be questioning the parents.

    To the extent this is real, it's boiled down to:
    1. 18 yo girl might have expressed interest in Columbine (but has apparently never threatened to do a repeat, which would be PC)
    2. 18yo girl might have traveled to Colorado and might have bought a shotgun.

    Meanwhile, all of the front range panics like an ICBM is incoming, shutters all the schools, etc.

    I wonder to what extent this is actually an NSA case -- you know, how they give "tips" to local law enforcement based on all the surveillance of US Citizens that they don't do, giving LE a heads up to invent PC to arrest someone the NSA feels is dangerous, but yet, can't be based upon what the NSA actually intercepted because that would be, illegal to spy on it's own citizens without PC.
    So looks like the gov’t really do have a way to track if someone bought a gun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanWolf View Post
    So looks like the gov’t really do have a way to track if someone bought a gun?
    To determine *what* someone bought would require talking to the people who sold it (Gunstore or private party who didn't do a FFL like they should). But, in theory (if we ignore legal standards for a moment), CBI could be able to say "xxx attempted to buy a gun two days ago at "store", and it was a long gun, and the background check was rejected/successful". Now, whether or not they should is another argument entirely, that's the extent of the data the gov't immediately has access to (e.g., CBI would not be able to say "it's a pump shotgun", because they don't have a clue.) Now, the only way electronic intercepts would put it together is if she bought it online in advance of coming to CO, or the most likely of all is if they looked at her card statements, saw a gun store, and went in and talked to them or something.

    ETA: What I'm most suspicious of is she may have made credible threats online, in a way the gov't shouldn't have been able to associate with her real identity, so the gov't isn't in a position to explain that she made these threats, because it would beg the question how they know it was her.
    ETA 2: And of course, the other possibility is that it is just the parents saying "Our daughter is interested in Columbine and went to CO" but then, the response would be incredibly and unjustifiably overblown.
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    A quick call to CBI to see if anyone by the name of < insert name here > has
    had a background check done in the last week and if so where was it (or more) done.

    Send investigators to that location(s), copy the 4473(s), interview the seller(s) and review security footage.

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