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    Quote Originally Posted by OxArt View Post
    To determine *what* someone bought would require talking to the people who sold it (Gunstore or private party who didn't do a FFL like they should). But, in theory (if we ignore legal standards for a moment), CBI could be able to say "xxx attempted to buy a gun two days ago at "store", and it was a long gun, and the background check was rejected/successful". Now, whether or not they should is another argument entirely, that's the extent of the data the gov't immediately has access to (e.g., CBI would not be able to say "it's a pump shotgun", because they don't have a clue.) Now, the only way electronic intercepts would put it together is if she bought it online in advance of coming to CO, or the most likely of all is if they looked at her card statements, saw a gun store, and went in and talked to them or something.

    ETA: What I'm most suspicious of is she may have made credible threats online, in a way the gov't shouldn't have been able to associate with her real identity, so the gov't isn't in a position to explain that she made these threats, because it would beg the question how they know it was her.
    By Florida law:

    "A person younger than 21 years of age may not purchase a firearm. The sale or transfer of a firearm to a person younger than 21 years of age may not be made or facilitated by a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer."

    So how did she successfully purchase a gun? Or all they got is that she attempted to purchase? Or did a gun store done f**ked up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanWolf View Post
    By Florida law:

    "A person younger than 21 years of age may not purchase a firearm. The sale or transfer of a firearm to a person younger than 21 years of age may not be made or facilitated by a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer."

    So how did she successfully purchase a gun? Or all they got is that she attempted to purchase? Or did a gun store done f**ked up?
    She purchased the shotgun in CO.

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    Comprehensive article on what is known about her

    https://heavy.com/news/2019/04/sol-p...YS4fCGmboXPBV8

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    Quote Originally Posted by newracer View Post
    She purchased the shotgun in CO.
    Yes, but as FL resident I assume, so the gun store has to make sure they are following FL gun law as well.
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    We don't know what the parents said. If they said, "At first we thought she was just missing, but now that we know she went to Colorado and bought a shotgun, we've got a serious problem on our hands." Wouldn't we want law enforcement to take that seriously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanWolf View Post
    Yes, but as FL resident I assume, so the gun store has to make sure they are following FL gun law as well.
    Negative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanWolf View Post
    By Florida law:

    "A person younger than 21 years of age may not purchase a firearm. The sale or transfer of a firearm to a person younger than 21 years of age may not be made or facilitated by a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer."

    So how did she successfully purchase a gun? Or all they got is that she attempted to purchase? Or did a gun store done f**ked up?
    Quick question for FFL's: In Colorado is the onus of determining if someone is from a prohibited state (in this case based on age), regarding purchase of a long gun, on the FFL or the CBI? Honest question. I bought a rifle in NM quite a few years back, and it seemed like the store (Walmart IIRC) had a color coded map for the clerk to check before filling out the 4473. Don't know if that procedure varies by state, or if my recollection is even correct.

    Thanks in advance.

    ETA: I was a CO resident at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanWolf View Post
    Yes, but as FL resident I assume, so the gun store has to make sure they are following FL gun law as well.
    Does Florida prohibit the possession of a long gun by someone under 21? Doubtful. CO doesn't have to comply with FL's purchase requirements.

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    I would start by checking the campground just west of Central City. The casinos have a great cheap breakfast. Old guys camping will definitely be friendly to a petite 18 y/o. Nederland is good place to hide out too. If anybody wants to form a posse, I am game. LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    We don't know what the parents said. If they said, "At first we thought she was just missing, but now that we know she went to Colorado and bought a shotgun, we've got a serious problem on our hands." Wouldn't we want law enforcement to take that seriously?
    If that is all it is, this response is entirely and disproportionately overblown without a single threat made. All our schools would probably be closed about 60+% of the time otherwise. And if the same standard is applied, POTUS could never leave a bunker. We'd all have to stay at home year round fearing an ICBM at any time. etc., etc.

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