Whooda thunk it?

[DenverGP]

I don't understand the details, but I think there were allegations of misuse of funds, overpaying some vendors that he (LaPierre) had a personal business relation with, etc.

[Gman]

I read something about Ollie trying to influence Wayne under pressure of leaking that Wayne took $200k from vendors for his wardrobe.

[Bailey Guns]

Yeah, not arguing ineffective or effective myself; and agree on North railroading + LaPierre having plenty of influence. I just think it's silly for any of us to think you wouldn't have those issues in an organization this old... and likewise, it's also silly to think we wouldn't have the same issues with North, or any other leadership. Not that it's justified, but it's inevitable. Some are worse than others, of course. You don't get that far without being a member of one good ol' boy club or another. North included.

It's also not "conspiracy" to observe that the NRA will never work itself out of a job, and it never has tried to. It's an observation of politics. Anyone would have to be quite silly... or more appropriately, naive, to think conservatives are immune from the influence of money, or immune from being shysters, simply because they are conservatives. Every "type" of person seems to believe that their "type" are the good guys, and never do that stuff.

I agree. Conservatives seem to have a real problem with stepping on their dicks. And they get crucified for it...usually deservedly so. The real bias is in how it's handled by the media as opposed to how they'd handle the same thing done by a democrat. This situation is no different.

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I agree. Conservatives seem to have a real problem with stepping on their dicks. And they get crucified for it...usually deservedly so. The real bias is in how it's handled by the media as opposed to how they'd handle the same thing done by a democrat. This situation is no different.

Sidetrack: Trump has taught a lot of people that the media matters not one bit if you are willing to fight.

Scheduled program: If Lapierre has been part of the problem, gets the boot, and we get a better NRA out of this I'll rejoin and donate. If not, then the NRA's membership goes elsewhere and we get a better gun rights org.

The only downside here is the public knows about this conflict of interest/corruption which isn't a reflection on all gun owners. And should not be something the gun grabbers should celebrate if they were firing on all cylinders because it has held us back. Now that it has been discovered it will have to be resolved. So they can keep celebrating the death of the NRA but the NRA was just a proxy for us.

[Bailey Guns]

You're right about Trump being able to fight the media. On the other hand, not everyone has the bully pulpit the president has.

[Rucker61]

Can someone explain to me what is so bad about Wayne? And do so without stupid hyperbole or conspiracy bullshit (like 'he's as bad as Bloomberg" or "the NRA wants gun control to keep the money flooding in" or "The NRA has sold us out over X").

This just in:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...YzI7XvYb9sWe7w

[Bailey Guns]

Sounds like that letter is pretty much confirming what OxArt was saying about corruption in organizations.

[Zundfolge]

This just in:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...YzI7XvYb9sWe7w

Thanks, that actually answers my questions without all the nonsense.

[Gman]

NRA re-elects Wayne LaPierre as CEO, confirms replacement for Oliver North

The National Rifle Association re-elected longtime CEO Wayne LaPierre to his leadership position on Monday as it confirmed a replacement for NRA President Oliver North.

The moves on Monday appeared to cap a weekend of controversy for the organization, which saw the opening of an investigation into the group as its top leaders engaged in a struggle for control.

Over the weekend, a dispute between North and LaPierre, NRA CEO and executive vice president, spilled into public view, and North said in a letter read to NRA members on Saturday that he had been "informed" he would not receive a second term as president of the gun rights group.

An NRA official confirmed to CNN on Monday that LaPierre had been re-elected to his post and Carolyn Meadows had been elected president. The official added that the votes for both were unanimous and unopposed.

"United we stand," LaPierre said. "The NRA Board of Directors, our leadership team, and our more than 5 million members will come together as never before in support of our country's constitutional freedoms. The challenges ahead of us are our greatest opportunities -- confronting our adversaries, defending the Association, and continuing our tradition as the greatest civil rights organization in the world."

According to an NRA document from its 2018 annual meeting, Meadows was elected to the board of directors in 2003, among other roles with the NRA, and has a history of positions in the Republican Party.

The NRA named North -- whose name is synonymous with the Reagan-era Iran-Contra scandal -- its president last year as it grappled with a renewed push for gun control in the wake of the school shooting in Parkland, Florida.

But as the group gathered for its annual meeting last Friday, the news broke that LaPierre, a longtime NRA executive and public face of the group, had told the organization's board he was being extorted and pressured to resign by North.

LaPierre said he was refusing to step down, and North, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal, told the board he was forming a crisis committee to look at the organization's finances. The Journal reported further that North had told the board's executive committee that LaPierre had charged more than $200,000 in wardrobe purchases to a vendor.

The following day, North told NRA members through a letter read during the annual meeting that he had hoped to be renominated for a second term but had since been "informed that will not happen."

Amid the unfolding controversy, the New York attorney general's office confirmed it had issued subpoenas in an investigation launched into the NRA. On Monday, President Donald Trump sought to punch back at New York for probing the NRA and accused the office and New York Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo of illegally trying to take down the gun rights group. Cuomo dismissed Trump's claim in a statement and said the state was "not afraid to stand up to the NRA."

[Bailey Guns]

This is beginning to sound like it belongs under the "WTF Were They Thinking" thread.