Stem Academy in Highlands Ranch shooting

[WillysWagon]

Damn, just heard about the fatality on the news right before I saw the latest posts.

[.455_Hunter]

I don't trust Spurlock at all after his Red Flag BS.

The DC Sheriff Twitter is saying that deputies "engaged them right away and their quick response saved lives".

There are multiple eyewitness accounts now that disagree with that statement. I heard the Dad of the student that was invloved live on the radio as this was unfolding and he knew far more about the situation than anyone knew at that point, including the DC Sheriff Twitter updates.

If it turns out that the students did in fact engage the bad guys first and disarm them and the sheriff tries to downplay that I hope DougCo residents don't let him live it down.

I don't know why trying to claim "false glory" for his LEO response would be necessary. Securing and arresting the perps after being disarmed by the students is a perfectly reasonable outcome, as would his deputies engaging and stopping the perps directly- both are miles ahead of the Broward County response of hiding behind cars and pillars.

If it is confirmed that students did disarm the gunman and de facto stop the attack, they should be at the State Capitol next week receiving Colorado Governor’s Citizenship Medals from Polis.

[Gman]

The Under-Sheriff seemed to have better info than Spurlock. She said there was a scuffle when officers arrived on scene.

I'm glad it didn't take DCSO long to respond. They're only a block away. Was interesting that a SRO from another school was first on scene.

[hollohas]

The Under-Sheriff seemed to have better info than Spurlock. She said there was a scuffle when officers arrived on scene.

^This. I think she did a good job all afternoon.

[BPTactical]

"Special Session" of Colorado legislature to address "Gun Violence" in 3,2,1............



BOHICA

[hollohas]

...both are miles ahead of the Broward County response of hiding behind cars and pillars.

I agree completely. The DougCo SO (and others) response seems to have been just about as quick as it gets.

[theGinsue]

I don't know why trying to claim "false glory" for his LEO response would be necessary. Securing and arresting the perps after being disarmed by the students is a perfectly reasonable outcome, as would his deputies engaging and stopping the perps directly- both are miles ahead of the Broward County response of hiding behind cars and pillars.

If it is confirmed that students did disarm the gunman and de facto stop the attack, they should be at the State Capitol next week receiving Colorado Governor’s Citizenship Medals from Polis.

Ah, but the prevailing "advice" on how to handle these situations is to NOT engage the bad guys and just let LEO's handle it...when they arrive.

This isn't a knock on Law enforcement; I'm sure all of our LE members know how much I respect them and the LE community at large. This is just a realistic statement that we can't maintain sufficient law enforcement presence to stop these events everywhere. We have to get it though the heads of those that parrot the line "you don't need guns because the police will protect you" to realize we are ALL individually responsible for our own safety and protection. We've got to change the mindset of everyone to understand that they have to ACT IMMEDIATELY to neutralize threats/acts of violence against them and others. If we could get the standard reaction to these events to be everyone fighting back with immediate force, perhaps those contemplating these events would reconsider the effectiveness of their decided actions.

While we're getting conflicting stories of what occurred, if (and I believe they did) students interceded on their own and other students behalf, I applaud them with an enthusiastic standing ovation.

I agree completely. The DougCo SO (and others) response seems to have been just about as quick as it gets.

Yes! Excellent response to this event on behalf of the Deputies of the Douglas County Sheriffs Office, and other agencies who responded. They are an example of what response is proper and required in these sorts of situations.

"Special Session" of Colorado legislature to address "Gun Violence" in 3,2,1............



BOHICA

Of course. Never let a tragedy go to waste - after all, they have an agenda to accomplish.

[hollohas]

Students DO respond and engage gunmen more often than is publicized. It gets swept under the rug. When they do and they save others with their heroic actions, we need to shout it from the mountain tops for everyone to hear. But, standing up to bullies is BAD. That's hammered into kids heads from preschool. That needs to change. We should celebrate it, but we discourage it. And IMO, these more common school shootings are a consequence of that.

[Gman]

Yeah, fight like your life depends on it...because it does. That's natural law.

[Sixgun]

Is this the Kid? Devon Ericson? Seems my daughter friends are texting this.